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firu1968
PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:23 am    Post subject: Administer WMB V7.0 Reply with quote

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Hi,

Is it poosible to administer WMB V7.0 runtimes from WMB V6.1 Toolkit?
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Vitor
PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: Administer WMB V7.0 Reply with quote

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firu1968 wrote:
Is it poosible to administer WMB V7.0 runtimes from WMB V6.1 Toolkit?


No.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Message Broker explorer is the way to go for admin anyway.
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firu1968
PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zpat wrote:
Message Broker explorer is the way to go for admin anyway.


When used in IS02 SupportPac MQ Explorer version 6.0, it is possible???
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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firu1968 wrote:
zpat wrote:
Message Broker explorer is the way to go for admin anyway.


When used in IS02 SupportPac MQ Explorer version 6.0, it is possible???


No, not really.

V6 and v6.1 tooling expect to talk to a ConfigMgr.

There is no ConfigMgr in v7.

Likewise, v7 tooling expects to NOT talk to a ConfigMgr, and 6.1 and 6.0 brokers CAN'T be managed without one.
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zpat
PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No I mean MQ broker explorer 7.

You can read the IS02 documentation to see what it supports but why are you so bothered about having one tool, when they can co-exist (e.g. toolkit and MB explorer)?
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firu1968
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zpat wrote:
No I mean MQ broker explorer 7.

You can read the IS02 documentation to see what it supports but why are you so bothered about having one tool, when they can co-exist (e.g. toolkit and MB explorer)?


The problem is I need to manage a broker in version 7.0 that is in another country and I have no means of version 7, I have only version 6.1 toolkitjavascript:emoticon('')
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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firu1968 wrote:
The problem is I need to manage a broker in version 7.0 that is in another country and I have no means of version 7


Then you should push back on whoever gave you the job of administering this v7 broker and tell them you need the v7 tooling.

How you get both v6.1 & v7 tooling to co-exist on your machine is detailed in the InfoCenter.
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firu1968 wrote:
zpat wrote:
No I mean MQ broker explorer 7.

You can read the IS02 documentation to see what it supports but why are you so bothered about having one tool, when they can co-exist (e.g. toolkit and MB explorer)?


The problem is I need to manage a broker in version 7.0 that is in another country and I have no means of version 7, I have only version 6.1 toolkitjavascript:emoticon('')


You can download and install both WebSphere MQ Explorer v7.0 and Broker Explorer v7.0 as supportPacs.

You can't then install them on the same machine as WebSphere MQ v6.0 Explorer, however, nor use Broker Explorer v7.0 from within the MQ V6 MQ Explorer.

So you have to give up being able to administer Broker v6.x objects.
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So you have to give up being able to administer Broker v6.x objects.


You only have to give up on the IS02 support pac. You can use the v7 Explorers to administer the v7 objects, then use the v6.1 Toolkit to administer the v6.1 objects.

Unless you can't get hold of the v6.1 Toolkit, in which case you have to give up on being able to administer v6.1 objects
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So you have to give up being able to administer Broker v6.x objects.


You only have to give up on the IS02 support pac. You can use the v7 Explorers to administer the v7 objects, then use the v6.1 Toolkit to administer the v6.1 objects.

Unless you can't get hold of the v6.1 Toolkit, in which case you have to give up on being able to administer v6.1 objects


Yeah. My brain chided me on that right *after* I hit "submit".

It's also technically possible to run both versions of MQ Explorer on the same machine - although only one will think it is the "installed" version and only one will be able to make "bindings" connections.

But that's left as an exercise.
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But that's left as an exercise.


An exercise for those who feel juggling chain-saws while they're running just a bit too "tame"?
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