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neeha_kashyap120
PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:45 am    Post subject: Cluster issue Reply with quote

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Hi All

We have a MQ cluster with 4 qmgrs in it. Each of the qmgrs is on a different machine. 2 of the qmgrs are in NorthAmerica and two in Europe. MQ Broker is also on a different NorthAmerica server which has a local instance of all 4 Cluster target queues.

When I send messages to the target queues, messages are going in a round robin fashion only to the two NorthAmerican servers, none to EU servers. The two full repositories of the cluster are one in NA and one in EU. All the queues are NOTFIXED. No netwrok priority set anywhere. Any idea why this is happening.

Does it have something to do with the servers being in Europe?

Thanks
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Vitor
PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:01 am    Post subject: Re: Cluster issue Reply with quote

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neeha_kashyap120 wrote:
Does it have something to do with the servers being in Europe?


Not unless your version of WMQ can read passports!

I think you could get an entirely North American or European based cluster to misbehave in that what. Use normal cluster problem determination.

(Note also that the queue being NOTFIXED is only a default that an applicaiton can override).

I'd start by checking that all the channels are running & the FRs can see all 4 queues.
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Use normal cluster problem determination.

...as described in the WMQ Clusters manual.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Assuming everything is otherwise set up correctly...

Lots of posts here on why the volume of App B's messages in a cluster can affect App A's load balancing.
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neeha_kashyap120
PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I checked the setup, everythign seems to be good. I have the same setup in a different environment which works.

I think I will have to take a closer looks and investigate what is happening. Now I know its not the issue of servers being in a different netwrok,

Thanks for the help

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Vitor
PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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neeha_kashyap120 wrote:
I think I will have to take a closer looks and investigate what is happening.


Good plan.

neeha_kashyap120 wrote:
Now I know its not the issue of servers being in a different netwrok,


You said different continents; nothing was said about them not being on the same network! Do you mean that this cluster actually spans 2 TCP/IP networks? If so, this is a good place to start looking; I repeat my advice about checking all the channels are running. If cross-network resolution has failed this will cause problems.
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I checked the setup, everythign seems to be good.

How exactly did you check the setup?
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And was it ever working? At a basic level, i.e. the FRs could see each other and the 2 PRs?
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mvic
PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Cluster issue Reply with quote

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neeha_kashyap120 wrote:
All the queues are NOTFIXED.

Besides this, how are the apps opening the queues? They can ignore the "defaults" on the queue definitions, as Vitor has said.

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No netwrok priority set anywhere.

Cluster workload balancing goes further than this.

The only way I know to see the variables at work is to use MQ trace (strmqtrc -m QMNAME -t all -t detail as per the MQ info center) and look at the dumped details during the workload balancing logic in the amqzlaa0 processes.
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raj429
PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I will suggest to check..
if the channels are running fine or not?
are the other problematic queues put disabled?
what are the values of CLWLUSEQ values on queue?
are the 4 instaces available in cluster?
etc
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John89011
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also, what verision of MQ do you have?
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