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| mictian |
 Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:14 pm Post subject: XML Mapping editor in Message Broker 7 |
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Hi,
I'm new to Message broker and XML mapping. I'm trying to use Message broker 7 XML mapping tool to generate XSLT. I have both source XSD and target XSD. What I want to achive is to use mapping editor in Broker 7 to generate XSLT which will then be used in transformation node. My questions are:
1) Is there good tutorial to show me how to do the complicated mappings to generate XSLT for Message broker 7?
2) Are there any Free alternative tools(easy to learn to do complicated mapping) to generate XSLT?
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| kimbert |
| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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I assume you're using the Mapping node. It's not specifically an XML mapping node - it can map any message tree, regardless of the original format of the data.
The Mapping node does not generate XSLT - or any other code which can be reused outside of message broker. You can do XSLT transformations within message broker, though - check out the XSLTransform node. |
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| mictian |
| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks kimbert for your prompt reply.
I'm going to use XSLT transformation node which requires XSLT supplied not mapping node. That's why I'm trying to use borker mapping eidtor to generate XSL. The reason to use transformation node instead of mapping node is because I want to reuse the XSLT later for other application.
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| kimbert |
| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe I'm being dim-witted, but this is the part that I don't understand:
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| That's why I'm trying to use borker mapping eidtor to generate XSL |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| mictian wrote: |
| That's why I'm trying to use borker mapping eidtor to generate XSL. |
AFAIK you can't.
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| The reason to use transformation node instead of mapping node is because I want to reuse the XSLT later for other application. |
If you've got WMB on site, why have another application do transformations? Note that using a mapping node is more efficient than an XSLT node.
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| kimbert |
| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Note that using a mapping node is more efficient than an XSLT node. |
Not always true. It depends whether the XSLTransform node is operating on the unchanged input message and/or generating the final output bitstream.
As always in these 'which transformation option should I use' debates, the answer is 'the correct one for your requirements'. |
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| mictian |
| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks all for your help.
Ahthough mapping node is more efficient, I need this XSLT for other application as well(data pump....). Since I already have WMB so I try to use WMB's XML mapping function to map source and target XSD to generate XSLT. So back to my original question;
1)Is there any good tutorial/exmaple to show me how to use WMB 7 to generate XSLT by using XML mapping editor for complicated mappingboth source and target? The logic behand (source and target xsd) mapping is not just drag connection, more logic involved so I need some good examples/tutorials for that.
2)Is ther any alternative free tool(used to do complicate mapping) to generate XSLT from source and target XSD?
3)Any other suggestions?
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| kimbert wrote: |
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| Note that using a mapping node is more efficient than an XSLT node. |
Not always true. It depends whether the XSLTransform node is operating on the unchanged input message and/or generating the final output bitstream.
As always in these 'which transformation option should I use' debates, the answer is 'the correct one for your requirements'. |
I stand corrected. 
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| fjb_saper |
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| kimbert wrote: |
I assume you're using the Mapping node. It's not specifically an XML mapping node - it can map any message tree, regardless of the original format of the data.
The Mapping node does not generate XSLT - or any other code which can be reused outside of message broker. You can do XSLT transformations within message broker, though - check out the XSLTransform node. |
To elaborate on Kimbert's answer to your question
AFAIK you cannot generate XSLT using the message broker toolkit.
You can USE XSLT that you ALREADY have in the XSLTransform node.
You will have to look to other tools for generating an XSLT document.
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| seeknee |
| Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:34 pm Post subject: Not sure if this has already been answered |
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Yes it is possible to use the xml mapping editor to generate xslt in broker 7
File/New/Other/XML/XML Mapping
Do your mapping then press generate XSLT script 
Hopefully this helps
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 2:01 am Post subject: Re: Not sure if this has already been answered |
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| seeknee wrote: |
Yes it is possible to use the xml mapping editor to generate xslt in broker 7
File/New/Other/XML/XML Mapping
Do your mapping then press generate XSLT script |
Excellent tip!
But to the rest of the viewers, this is *NOT* the Mapping node mapping editor. It's a separate editor supplied with the RAD components that Toolkit is based on. |
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| n1ghtrain |
| Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry for reopening this..
I remember using the XML Mapping editor for generating XSL in a WMB 6.1 version toolkit and also in WID and RAD. But somehow this editor is missing in the WMB 7 version that I am having. (In the "Select Wizard" window under "XML" i only have DTD, XML, XML Schema, XSL now.)
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WebSphere Message Broker Toolkit - Message Broker
Version: 7.0.0
Build id: 7.0.0-20091028_2100 |
 any of the folks here know more about this. |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:26 am Post subject: |
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File->New->Other
Expand the XML Folder.
Choose XML Map.
Works for me on 7.0 toolkit.
Version: 7.0.0
Build id: 7.0.0-IFix-20100308_1835
If you don't see XML Map as an option, then go to Window->Preferences->General->Capabilities and enable all capabilities. Then try again. |
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