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| au@kosa |
 Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject: SOAP/JMS |
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Is there any inbuilt support for SOAP/JMS similar to SOAP/HTTP.
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| AkankshA |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Wont JMS nodes fall in this catagory ??
or did i got you wrong.. may be you can be a little more descriptive...
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| au@kosa |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:05 am Post subject: |
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What i am looking is there a choice of protocol (HTTP/JMS/MQ) when i dropped a WSDL into Editor. I knew a SOAPInput /SOAP Reply nodes are created but they support SOAP over HTTP only. Do i have a choice where i can change the underlying protocol.
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| AkankshA |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:03 am Post subject: |
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AFAIK thw wsdl having jms destinations can not be used in wmb.. Hence As far as i know the answer is NO.... though i stand to be corrected here
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| au@kosa |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:10 am Post subject: |
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Akansha,
Thanks for the reply. Can i use SOAP over MQ (multiple operations) out of the box in Message Broker.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| au@kosa wrote: |
| Can i use SOAP over MQ (multiple operations) out of the box in Message Broker. |
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| au@kosa |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Vitor,
My Apology. I will rephrase my wordings
In Message Broker 6.0 too handled SOAP for MQ as well as HTTP (MQ Input Node and HTTP Input Node) either through concept of category files or without any message set just taking the SOAP messages and extract the SOAP envelope through CN or JCN.
The MB 6.1 comes with SOAP nodes dedicated to SOAP but it seems it is dedicated to SOAP/HTTP. Is there any similar nodes for SOAP/MQ.
Or something i am missing. Is there any way the SOAP nodes can be tuned for MQ protocol.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| au@kosa wrote: |
| My Apology. I will rephrase my wordings |
My apology in return. I shall rephrase my answer, then take my anti-smartass medication. 
| au@kosa wrote: |
| Is there any way the SOAP nodes can be tuned for MQ protocol. |
AFAIK the SOAPInput/SOAPReply nodes are specific to http as it's intended to allow WMB to act as a Web Service. The other input/output nodes likewise use http because they interface with other Web services.
But it's perfectly straightforward to handle a SOAP message that arrives over WMQ using the other nodes in the toolkit. Been there, done that, works a treat.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:08 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Vitor,
I wish one day message broker will support Abstract WSDL model where actual binding to transport (MQ/JMS/HTTP) can be associated at Runtime/Deployment Time.
i saw in one of the OPen Source tool (Open ESB) and it give a great comfort to developers.
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| mqjeff |
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First there has to be a standards approved alternate transport for SOAP rather than just HTTP.
Right, mgk? |
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| goffinf |
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| Well perhaps, but there have been a number of proposals for JMS and native MQ bindings around for quite some time. IBM has published some docs on this together with example WSDLs. I don't see why Message Broker has to be constrained by the lack of some universal protocol standard, thats clearly not going to happen. Most standards are the result of the market traction of early proposals that become de-facto with or without IETF, W3c, OASIS or any other august body support. |
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| elvis_gn |
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| au@kosa wrote: |
Thanks Vitor,
I wish one day message broker will support Abstract WSDL model where actual binding to transport (MQ/JMS/HTTP) can be associated at Runtime/Deployment Time.
i saw in one of the OPen Source tool (Open ESB) and it give a great comfort to developers. |
Hmmm....I have a feeling I read somewhere in the v7 features that the WSRR nodes now supported WSDL MQ Bindings...but I could be wrong, or might have read it in some other context.
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| simon.starkie |
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My Customer is also asking for a SOAP/JMS web service hosted by WMB6.1.
They want a "one-way" request-only web service using SOAP/JMS.
They want to use JMS as the transport instead of HTTP.
But WMB6.1 only supports HTTP as the transport for web services.
The WSDL transport would look something like this:
<soap:binding style="document" transport="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/jms"/>
Has anyone here developed a workaround other than using MQ or should I resort to WAS 7?
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