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| dk27 |
 Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:31 am Post subject: SAP PI vs Websphere Message Broker |
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Acolyte
Joined: 28 Apr 2008
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Hi Guys,
I am trying to put in my case for WMB usage in a solution that we are proposing to business. For this I need some advice.
Currently This company XYZ receivs data from banks but on different networks and protocols. This data is routed to SAP and other systems. The data is in SWIFT.
SAP guys are proposing a SAP - PI solution where SWIFT adapter is readily available and free. Adapter can directly connect to SWIFTNet through SWIFTNet interface and then it will route the messages to SAP and other systems.
I am proposing a message broker solution which will use SWIFT message set and will do routing and transformation.
I know message broker / MQ is scalable, secure etc but not sure about PI. Can you please give some valuable info about your experiance with PI in general and PI related to SWIFT.
You help will be appreciated in this. |
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| Maximreality |
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:12 am Post subject: Re: SAP PI vs Websphere Message Broker |
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Acolyte
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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Location: Copenhagen
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The "free" solution they propose might not cover all SWIFT message types and you might need to buy the IWAY SWIFT adapter for PI. (which is not cheap)
My experience is that development is done much faster on websphere message broker and 6.1 has build-in SAP integration capabilities.
You need to be aware of the SAP PI licensing model when doing non-sap integration scenarios.
Also the performance of SAP PI is poor compared to message broker.
PI itself is pretty fast in doing xml to xml, but when doing ex. XML to IDOC, it invokes the IDOC adapter which is very slow.
When doing BPM mappings the performance is very bad. (so check if the SWIFT stuff is using BPM)
In general if you are doing SAP to SAP or SAP to non-SAP, PI can be a good solution if your data is XML or there is an adapter that converts legacy format into XML.
If you are doing any non-SAP scenarios + have custom message formats(CWF, TDS) Message Broker is the choice.
/Rasmus |
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| dk27 |
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Acolyte
Joined: 28 Apr 2008
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Thanks for your valuable comments. I will try and find out if PI covers all SWIFT releases that we are interested in. But yes if it is free then we might try and adjust SWIFT version as always purse is tight.
We will be using PI only for SAP related business and MB for rest of the transformations and routing. Only contention is whether we push SWIFT through MB or PI. Even if we push it through any one we will have to forward messages to other to do further processing.
One more aspect we have to consider is MB does not connect directly to SWIFT gateway, so we will have to have some thing pushing the messages through MQ on SWIFT gateway end while PI directly connects to SWIFT Gateway to get he messages.
But yes performance and security are important aspects and we need to understand it in details.
As far as development is concerned on message, yes it is very easy just oneinput node one compute node with XML setting will do the trick.
Thanks for your help. |
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| Gaya3 |
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:43 am Post subject: |
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Jedi
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SAP PI doesn't perform well when it is going to communicate with some Legacy or different systems other than SAP.
So it's really a burden and overhead.
Regarding SWIFT messages i do agree with Maximreality
Coming back, Performance wise...WBIMB is the best, the best, the best and the best....  
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| Maximreality |
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:46 am Post subject: |
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Acolyte
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| dk27 |
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:38 am Post subject: |
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Acolyte
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This meant we need to add one more product to the stack to complete the WMB solution.
We probaly will run a pilot on SAP PI first and will do a performance analysis. If things are not ok with PI then we will look into MB. |
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| elvis_gn |
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:38 am Post subject: |
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Padawan
Joined: 08 Oct 2004
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Location: Dubai
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Hi dk27,
| dk27 wrote: |
| One more aspect we have to consider is MB does not connect directly to SWIFT gateway, so we will have to have some thing pushing the messages through MQ on SWIFT gateway end while PI directly connects to SWIFT Gateway to get he messages. |
SWIFT gateway can be implemented as FTP or the more reliable MQSA Alliance gateway (MQ being WebSphere MQ Adapter)....and MB should be able to do both quite cleanly.
Regards. |
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