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Sonal
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:56 am    Post subject: ESB - single point of failure Reply with quote

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How does an ESB address the problem of single point of failure?
How does a combo of MQ+MB deals with this issue?
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WMBDEV1
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Horizontal scaling for broker and MQ, help remove SPOFs.

For example MQ has clustered queues so there is not only one possible destination for the message to go to be processed. This means that if one QM hosting the q becomes unavailable, it can still be routed to another QM that is still available.
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WMBDEV1
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The weirdest thing happened with my previous post....

For "contact admin" I actually wrote M Q help (without spaces in the M Q).

Please substitute this in accordingly until someone fixes it!
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Sonal
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Horizontal scaling for broker and contact admin remove SPOFs.

Can you please elaborate over this?
Many thanks.
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WMBDEV1
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did you do any searching for help on MQ clusters / horizontal scaling? before coming back to me for help? If so what did you find and why was this not helpful?
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Vitor
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WMBDEV1 wrote:
Did you do any searching for help on MQ clusters / horizontal scaling? before coming back to me for help?


If you check this poster's history, you'll notice a lot of general questions and spoonfeeding requests. I can only assume the recent increase in activity means the certification exam is soon.....
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Sonal
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks experts!

I went thru' it... i mean Red Books... but then wouldnt it be too expensive? Clustering, i mean?
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Vitor
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sonal wrote:
then wouldnt it be too expensive? Clustering, i mean?


Depends what you mean by "too expensive". In the context of your original (and unbelievibly basic) question, the cost of removing a SPOF needs to be balanced against how much your business will lose while the system is down.

You'll find this discussed a lot as well. Try looking for answers to your questions before simply posting them here.

This is also sounding a lot like this, with the question changed from "how do I justify the cost of WMQ to my management" to "how to I justify the cost of removing SPOF & using clustering to my management".


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manicminer
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quite how you expect to remove a single point of failure without extra resources (which inherently cost money) I don't understand
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