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vinay_s_s
PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Remote queue creation time Reply with quote

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Hi All,

is there any way to get the remote queue creation date and time.
The remote queue properties displays only alt date and time.

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Mr Butcher
PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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check the runmqsc command reference, for the "display queue" there is a talbe which attribute is available for which type of queue, and crdate and crtime are only available for local queues and model queues.
(MQV6 see page 344/345)
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vinay_s_s
PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thank you. But if that option was provided, it would have been of great help and information..
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Michael Dag
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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out of curiousity what problem do you want to solve by knowing the creation date/time?
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Mr Butcher
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i always use the"DESCR" field to add a date and a name abbreviation to the queue description, that helps a lot to identify when , who and maybe why an object was created (only in the case everybody follows this little rule).
if i create object definitions by script, it is easy to add the date to DESCR.

however, the object definition and that little comment area is not designed to solve organisational problems (keeping track of changes)
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Michael Dag
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mr Butcher wrote:
organisational problems (keeping track of changes)

many roads to that destination
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vinay_s_s
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I want to track unauthorized changes on MQ configuration in the production environment.
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Michael Dag
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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vinay_s_s wrote:
I want to track unauthorized changes on MQ configuration in the production environment.


unless you want to re-invent the wheel, MQDocument can do that and a lot more
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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vinay_s_s wrote:
I want to track unauthorized changes on MQ configuration in the production environment.


How about using a security model involving change control? Then there shouldn't be any 'unauthorised' changes
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kevinf2349
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The ALTERed date and time IS the created date and time when the remote queue is first created, but it will change when anything gets altered (as the name implies).

I understand the need to track changes but isn't that what security is all about? Prevention is better than cure.
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Michael Dag wrote:
vinay_s_s wrote:
I want to track unauthorized changes on MQ configuration in the production environment.


unless you want to re-invent the wheel, MQDocument can do that and a lot more


We just started using MQDocument for this very reason. As a team leader I like to see the authorized changes too! No one's perfect and having people look at the changes made to the system a day later with a fresh set of eyes sometimes spots problems that were missed before.
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