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vennela
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2002 10:07 pm    Post subject: FDL generating app Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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I have to write a program that would take the values needed for defining a person and would generate an FDL file.

Is there anybody who has already written such app and is willing to share?
If yes can you please add it to the repository.

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jmac
PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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Venny:

We have one, but we sell it, so I can not give it away. I can tell you however, that one of the MQWF TXNpacs has an FDL parser. Here is the link to the "Peple Administration" service Pack WO02 http://www-3.ibm.com/software/ts/mqseries/txppacs/wo02.html

One tip I can give you is that there is an undocumented command that will allow you to do commandline import/export from Buildtime. So it is possible to keep your BT and RT databases in sync.

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vennela
PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Our databases are on Unix platforms. I can't find any command line utility that would do an import and export from the BT database. Do you have any idea what the fmcbimp corresponds to on Unix platforms.

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Ratan
PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey Venny,
-Laze


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Ratan
PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi jmac,

Do you have a trial version of you application for evaluation. I would like to see how efficient it is.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Venny:

Since Buildtime must run on Windows, the command is only supported on the windows platform, but you should be able to run it from any machine that has buildtime installed.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2002 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Laze:

There is no trial version to my knowledge, I will inquire next week as to what we have as far as doc goes.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2002 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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John:



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Since Buildtime must run on Windows, the command is only supported on the windows platform, but you should be able to run it from any machine that has buildtime installed.


I see what you are saying. But don't you think it would have been nice if we have had the capability of importing and exporting to Buildtime Database from wherever the database is hosted apart from doing it where the buildtime is installed. May be like Runtime Database utilities, it would have been nice if we had Buildtime database utilities.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2002 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Venny:

You are preaching to the choir.... I could give you a list that I started 3 years ago of "Shouldn't MQWF do this" that is about 100 items long. And that's only the stuff I think it SHOULD do, not the stuff I think it would be nice to do.

I have learned to live within the limitations of the product.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jmac

Can you tell me is it the "People Administration" support pack download that has the FDL Parser.

I am creating a application that will read some FDL and convert it to XML for a User Administration Utility. It would be nice if I could find that FDL Parser you mentiond in a previous post.

Thanks.
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Dave:

I didn't do the work for our product but we used something called jjt to generate the parsing code.

I also think that the "People Administration" support pack contains some type of FDL parser.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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people administration support pac is collection of script (batch) files. it uses the fmcibie script wirtten to a batch file as a program for a program activity.. thatz it. i dont see great benefit using it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am a bit confused here. Why do we need a FDL parser? I donot see any reason I need it. My application doesnot need to read the FDL, it just has to write the FDL. I dont see any use for a FDL parser for staffing, because my application will be generating an FDL as opposed to reading an FDL.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ratan:

The reason we have an FDL parser is to put the FDL into Java objects that can then be used by our Staff Admin utility. There is no need for an FDL parser, as you know, if you just want to generate your own FDL, you can easily do it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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John,

Is it possible for you to give us an outline of how your staffing process works?
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