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mqmatt
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:02 am    Post subject: WebSphere Message Broker V6.1 Reply with quote

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In case you guys weren't already aware, IBM has announced Message Broker V6.1.
http://www.ibm.com/software/integration/wbimessagebroker/features/

The information on the web site are a bit light on technical details, but if you have any questions, feel free to ask on the forum and me and the other IBMers will do our best to enlighten you.

It should be a good one - have fun
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Michael Dag
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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does this release support runtime configurable properties, i.e. change a property on a msgflow in runtime without redeployment from the configuration manager?

for example UDP properties (for QueueNames) or number of instances of a flow?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kind of. For new capability, server definitions used by the broker (e.g. LDAP, TFIM, SMTP, FTP and some EIS providers) are all configured as 'Configurable Services', which was a concept introduced with the JMS support in a v6 FP.
It allows you to edit the connection details directly on the broker without requiring a redeploy. In v6.1 these can be edited either through a broker command or remotely through the CMP.

Flow instances can also be configured without requiring a redeploy (using the CMP). It is now also possible to configure additional instances on a node, optionally instead of at the message flow level. (This gets round possible thread starvation that could otherwise occur if you have multiple input nodes in a flow.)

Edit: Not everything associated with these new server definitions can be edited without requiring a redeploy; particularly the EIS host locations, which are configured though adapter connection files which are deployed. But you see where we're headed.
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sebastianhirt
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqmatt wrote:
It allows you to edit the connection details directly on the broker without requiring a redeploy. In v6.1 these can be edited either through a broker command or remotely through the CMP.


When you say the CMP, does this mean that the toolkit can also do it?
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mqmatt
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sebastianhirt wrote:
When you say the CMP, does this mean that the toolkit can also do it?

The CMP now has the generic interface to edit nearly all broker properties (including those set with mqsichangeproperties), but this is currently only exposed in the Toolkit for certain new areas: policy sets, security profiles and the new debugger are the ones that spring to mind.
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moorej_gl
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mqmatt - Would you mind explaining what "real-time graphical performance analysis" would provide? And also, is "native support for large file processing" just a native ftp node, or is there more to it?
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mqmatt
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moorej_gl wrote:
Would you mind explaining what "real-time graphical performance analysis" would provide? And also, is "native support for large file processing" just a native ftp node, or is there more to it?


Real-time graphical performance analysis: I think that is just referring to the IS02 supportpac.
Large file processing: V6.1 has FileInput and FileOutput nodes that read and write to local filesystem and FTP servers. "Large file processing" means that the broker doesn't need to load the entire file into memory in order to process it - it can stream record-by-record. (It works quite nicely with files >gigabytes in size).

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can't wait until November 22, 2007: electronic software delivery
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So are 6.0 and 6.1 of WMB going to live concurrently, each getting updates?

Or is 6.0.0.6 going to be the last update to 6.0 and then you have to upgrade to 6.1.0.0?
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=849&uid=swg27006308
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moorej_gl
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"Large file processing" means that the broker doesn't need to load the entire file into memory in order to process it - it can stream record-by-record.


That's so awesome. And so are the file I/O nodes.

Thanks for your response.
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There doesn't appear to be an announced EOS date for WMB v6.0.

At least not yet.

Coexistance and migration are possible, and easy... although no direct migration support from 2.1, I think.
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Bill.Matthews
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I believe (personal opinion) that both 6.0 and 6.1 will be maintained untill 6.0 goes out of service - just like V5.3 has been maintained over the past two years.

This will, of course, now put a greater responsibility on people who ask questions to MQSeries.net - as well as when you open a problem report with IBM.

And guys, its going to be lots of fun. Starting with a install time for the runtime and tooling along with creating the default configuration - in about an hour or less ..
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PieterV
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Perhaps a stupid question, but do we need to buy 6.1 if we have 6.0 or can we just upgrade?
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mqmatt
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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6.1 is a completely new release (migration is similar to say, v5 -> v6 and it will coexist with v5 and v6) . Ask your friendly IBM salesperson about upgrade entitlement; I don't do licensing and sales stuff.
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vmcgloin
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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V6.1 has FileInput and FileOutput nodes that read and write to local filesystem


Does that mean that the File Extender product is integrated into V6.1 and we do not need to pay for a product extension? Or are the FileInput and FileOutput nodes more limited than that product?

Thanks,
Vicky
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