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| slam |
 Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 12:38 pm Post subject: OS2 Warp |
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Is anyone aware of IBM's stated direction for OS Warp? Will support be available after 2002 for the OS?
If we plan to use the MQ Client on OS/2, will this support this Client be pulled in the near future as well.
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| bower5932 |
| Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| slam |
| Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the reply.
Does anyone have experience trying to develop a solution on a platform which is will no longer be supported? What are the pitfalls in doing so? |
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| bower5932 |
| Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 5:48 am Post subject: |
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The major pitfall will be getting support. If you ever call in with a question on an unsupported platform, the response that you'll get is "not supported", and you'll have to either figure it out on your own or switch to the supported platform.
The other big problem is that you won't find any of the new functions working their way into the product. |
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| kman |
| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:02 am Post subject: |
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Hey Ron, I am checking if WMQ for whatever version, still supported and sold on OS/2 WARP. I tried the link you gave but its and old link.
Sorry.. it was a long time ago that I check this.. forgot about everything.. hehehe shame  |
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| kman |
| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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on the search, I found this
Course Catalogue
MQ30HK: WebSphere MQ System Administration II for Distributed Platforms
at
http://www-8.ibm.com/hk/services/learning/cics-mqseries/mq30hk.html
which still list
[list=]# WebSphere MQ for OS/2 Warp, V5.3[/list]
supposedly there was still 5.3 for WARP.
Any help? I know the supported platform site did not list OS/2 anymore. |
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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No. It's not supported. You can't get software for it.
Give up, use a supported platform.
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| kman |
| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Jeff.
I know it is not supported. Heck, even OS/2 is not supported. But in our environment we still have OS/2 running our front end system, and we are in the midst of replacing that.
I am studying the migration approach for the front end system, from OS/2 to Windows. Since we have about 400 + installation sites (branches), in doing a cutover, we are studying how to have coexistence of the front end system, while only a single back end system. This applies to phase cutover of the front end system and big bang of the back end.
One way is to get the front end system to talk to the back end via MQ. The other way is to talk SNA to a broker. I would prefer an MQ approach.
The other way is to run parallel back end system, and the back end syncs with each other.
I am hoping that there is someone out there who have done OS/2 migration slowly as in phases to windows, in a client server situation, that can provide input.
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| mvic |
| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:40 am Post subject: |
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| kman wrote: |
| But in our environment we still have OS/2 running our front end system, and we are in the midst of replacing that. |
How long will this take to roll out? Simplest in my view to get all clients up to a supported level first then address the server, can this be done...? Just my opinion. |
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| zpat |
| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:47 am Post subject: |
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What's the issue here? If you can obtain the OS/2 client for MQ from somewhere it should work fine. Download level clients usually have no problem with newer queue managers.
We replaced 2000 OS/2 MQ client desktops with Windows NT a few years ago. |
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| kman |
| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks zpat.
I tried looking up supportpac, and the official site, there is no more mq client.
Do you still have the copy?
mvic, we can't do your suggestion. The front end system runs on OS/2 and the back end server is on OS/390. And they are tightly coupled. We can break the coupling with a broker, yes. Hence we are looking for getting the OS/2 on MQ. |
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| mvic |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:35 am Post subject: |
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| kman wrote: |
| mvic, we can't do your suggestion. |
I'm confused. My suggestion was to get your clients to a supported level of code. I don't understand why that can't be done... indeed you suggested in your own post that you were going to do this. All I was trying to say was that this should ideally be done first, before addressing the server.
What's the nature of the "tight coupling" you mention? |
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| zpat |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:21 am Post subject: |
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MQ clients v5 including OS/2.
Was that the last version issued for OS/2?
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| kman |
| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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mvic, here's the situation.
The client front end system is on OS/2. We need to replace the client system. We are not going to upgrade this, but replace. A complete new front end and back end system, with new architecture altogether. We have over 1000 instances of the client system.
During the migration, should we do phase cutover, there is two client front end system. All transaction initiated at the front end, but processed at the back end. The problem lies with linking the old front end system to the new back end. Only in phase approach. Only front end, because the back end will be big bang.. there is only one back end system at the data center.
Can't upgrade client only neither because the new front end system is a package solution with the new back end system.
Anyway, just another thought, anybody know what other browser can run on OS/2 WARP. I know there was a web crawler and a netscape, but is there anything else..
hmmm.. got a list of browsers from uncle google search... hehehe
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