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| steve_ghb |
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Don't think so, I'm looking in fmc.process_inst
My immediate need I guess is to figure out how to get these instances deleted so they can be cleaned up. Between 9:45 a.m. and 4 p.m. today about 13,000 more have been changed to state 128 so it looks like the scheduling server is working (for now).
Can I get some opinion on how to change the scheduling server (during off-peak hours) to perform alot more cleanup? Is it as simple as changing the DELETE_NOTIFICATION_ITEM_THRESHOLD to something like 500 or 1,000? |
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| steve_ghb |
| Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks everyone for their help with this, I think we're getting it under control. We've started a couple more execution servers and we're manually deleting finished process instances to get the backlog cleaned up. We'll get a better picture I'm sure when the system is 'back to normal'
One question though, and it's likely in the docs somewhere but I haven't found it...
If a top level process is still running, but a sub process has finished and is past it's keep time, does it get deleted and cleaned up, or does the scheduling server wait until the top level process is finished?
I need to know how much manual cleaning to do. Don't want to delete any finished instances that are still needed.
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| jmac |
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| steve_ghb wrote: |
If a top level process is still running, but a sub process has finished and is past it's keep time, does it get deleted and cleaned up, or does the scheduling server wait until the top level process is finished?
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it is my opinion that the Subprocess should get deleted, but note that I am not certain that it does, I just THINK it should be.
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| steve_ghb |
| Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks jmac, good enough for me.
So if I don't reply to this forum again, it's because I got fired and I'm at my new job folding sweaters at The GAP. |
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| jmac |
| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| steve_ghb wrote: |
Thanks jmac, good enough for me.
So if I don't reply to this forum again, it's because I got fired and I'm at my new job folding sweaters at The GAP. |
Steve: At least you will look sharp.... What with that employee discount and all 
Let us know how you make out with this problem.
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| steve_ghb |
| Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Well I'm still employed (don't know whether that's good or bad the way things are going).
Performance improved after cleaning up a pile of instances, but still no root cause as to why they aren't going from finished to deleted state.
Also, according to IBM support, it isn't the scheduling server that changes the state to deleted, it is the execution server. We recently increased the number of execution servers but still the other day we saw only about 80 instances change to deleted over the course of the day (thousands more that night when there were no users).
I'm stumped, I guess we'll wait and see what IBM says, I'll post the solution if we find it. |
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| jmac |
| Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Steve:
You have probably already done this, but be sure to check all of the places where the releveant settings are stored. I assume this would be the Keep finished Process Instances setting. There are I belive at least 4 places where this can be specified. Domain Level, Group Level, System Level, and Process Level.
Good Luck.... Bummer about that GAP job... 
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| jmac |
| Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Steve:
Actually I was looking over the note again... And in this case I believe I disagree with IBM on what they are saying. While they are technically correct in that the Execution Server will make the change, if the Scheduling Server is not running, the change will not be made assuming that you have specified Keep Finished Instances for some period of time... Which I believe you have done.
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