| Which form of Deploys do you use in production |
| Complete deploys everytime (ALL FLOWS/Message SETS |
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23% |
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| Complete and Delta Deploys |
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30% |
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| Only Delta Deploys |
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38% |
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| Or other |
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7% |
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| vennela |
 Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Jedi Knight
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Location: Hyderabad, India
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| jefflowrey wrote: |
| vennela wrote: |
| jefflowrey wrote: |
| And what is it you are dragging and dropping? |
Message flows |
Which creates a bar file in the background. |
Oh OK. |
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| waugh |
| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:59 am Post subject: not a fan of complete deploys |
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not a fan of complete deploys
My reservations:
1) version control will be tough when you change only one flow and do a complete deploy of all N flows running on that EG. (may introduce new errors).
2). sometimes flows are big. one of my bar files take 5 minutes to deploy, if it fails for any reason, that may results in no flows left behind. |
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| mrlinux |
| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Location: Detroit,MI USA
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Well the issue I have with deltas, what happens when you have to roll back changes to teh previous release because some portion of the Application (May not even be MQ) doesnt work in production ???
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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When you deploy a BAR file, everything inside the bar file is redeployed.
If some portion of a BAR file doesn't work, then create a new BAR file with the subset of components that need to be fixed and deploy that.
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| mrlinux |
| Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:08 am Post subject: |
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Well the roll back may occur for some other reason, and the issue is how do you undo the delta deploy. Example v1.0 and deploy v1.1 and due to some NON MQSI application issue you have to roll back to 1.0 until the issue can be fixed/tested.
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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There is no "rollback".
You deploy the v1.0 bar file again, or you create a new bar file with the v1.0 pieces that didn't deploy, and deploy that.
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| mrlinux |
| Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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The issue with that 1.0 will not have all the flows that changed in 1.1 since it is a delta deploy from say 0.9
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| vennela |
| Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Well then the meaning of delta in your context is different from that of message broker terminology. |
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| mrlinux |
| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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what do you consider a delta deploy is ???
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