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adharmar
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:48 am    Post subject: IBM MQ and MSMQ can it co-exist on the same box Reply with quote

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We have a windows 2003 server(A) with MSMQ and another server(B) with IBM MQ. Please suggest how do I get messages from server A with MQMQ to server B with IBM MQ?

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EddieA
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Write a "Bridge" application.

There used to be one around, a very long time ago, for MQ to MSMQ, but I think it died.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There's one that's part of Host Integration Server 2000, at least. There may be one in newer versions...

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/host/reskit/part3/hisrkc13.mspx
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Yes, the old Level 8 product

However:

Chapter 13 - MSMQ-MQSeries Bridge Configuration Guide

Introduction

This chapter explains how Microsoft Message Queue Server (MSMQ) integrates with IBM MQSeries using the Microsoft MSMQ-MQSeries Bridge. The MSMQ-MQSeries Bridge enables customers to enjoy the best of both worlds, using the integrated and high-performing facilities of MSMQ on Windows NT, while preserving investments in MQSeries on the non-Windows platforms. Shipping with SNA Server 4.0 Service Pack 2 and later versions, the MSMQ-MQSeries Bridge provides a simple, cost-effective solution to application integration that is scalable, reliable and offers high performance

Seems to indicate MQSeries can't be on the windows machine. Does anyone know if thats really true?
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EddieA
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ha. Also taken from Chapter 13:
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Originally a Level 8 product, Microsoft now owns the rights and continues to support, maintain and enhance the Bridge with a new release planned in the next version of SNA Server (named Host Integration Server 2000). Level 8 continue to offer a range of cross-platform MSMQ clients that provide an alternative approach to integration.

Aslo taking a quick look, they call it a Bridge, but it doesn't smell like one.
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The MSMQ-MQSeries Bridge is NOT a switch box. You do not create both MSMQ Queues and MQSeries Queues and then wire the two together

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The MSMQ-MQSeries Bridge IS an interface between MSMQ and MQSeries that lets MSMQ applications send messages to MQSeries queues and MQSeries applications send messages to MSMQ queues

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The philosophy behind the Bridge is to expose queues in each messaging system to the other in terms that are native to each messaging system. The Bridge takes care of translating and mapping the messages fields and values of the sending environment to the fields and values of the receiving environment. After the mapping and conversion, the MSMQ-MQSeries Bridge routes the message between the two messaging systems

Which makes it a way of connecting your application that works with one of the products, to PUT messages to the other. Not a way of "moving" messages from one existing Queue to another.

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EddieA wrote:
Which makes it a way of connecting your application that works with one of the products, to PUT messages to the other. Not a way of "moving" messages from one existing Queue to another.

This is not surprising.

From the little I've seen, MSMQ is very application centric, where as WebSphere MQ is very infrastructure centric.
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