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| angelovsfan |
 Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 4:58 am Post subject: Maximum possible connections from a QMGR |
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Hello all,
I'm having great troubles in finding a source of information that explains the overall relations between most important configuration options that define the maximum of connections that can be reached from a single QMGR.
I've seen a lot of topics here and on a lot of others in different sites,
but the picture didn't get clear enough.
What is the relation between the following overall parameters that can be seen under a QMGR with SVRCONN channel:
MAXHANDS - this one isn't affecting the number of connections according to:
http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=46095
http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=62812&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=55950&view=next&sid=414072b3ceeaa4c224619cfc82673e7a
SHARECNV / MAXSHCNV
MaxChannels
MaxActiveChannels
Added:
MAXINST
MAXINSTC
So if I have the following configuration (the numbers are made up):
QMGR=TEST1;
MAXHANDS=500;
MAXCHANNELS=701;
MAXACTIVECHANNELS=700;
CHANNEL(CLIENT.TEST1) - CHLTYPE(SVRCONN)
SHARECNV(25) so -> MAXSHCNV(25)
When I type "dis qmstatus conns" what should be the expected maximum connections I can see and what variables am I missing (given there are no other channels involved)?
The MQ version can be anything between 7.5-9.0.
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| PaulClarke |
| Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:30 am Post subject: |
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I would have thought the other variables you are missing are MAXINST and MAXINSTC defined on a SVRCONN which controls how many connections can be made over this SVRCONN definition.
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| angelovsfan |
| Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| @PaulClarke, thank you, I've added them to the first post. Still I'm hopping someone will come out with some kind of formula. |
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| PaulClarke |
| Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:40 am Post subject: |
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I suspect that if there was a simple way to express these variables in a formula then it would already be described in the manual. These variables can all affect how many connections you can make over a channel (with the possible exception of MAXHANDS) but there are other environmental factors.
For example, with SHARECNV this depends on the MQ client being a particular version, having used particular MQI options, making all connections from the same process on the same machine using the right protocol. Similarly MAXINST will only limit connections coming from the same machine.
I suspect you could write a spreadsheet or something which allows you to plug in your numbers and it will tell you the minimum values you can get away with I'm not sure I understand the sense in that. To my mind you want to set the value to more than you need rather than the exact amount, otherwise you are constantly hitting your head on the ceiling.
For example, if you suspect that you will need up to 1,000 connected clients then I would set MaxChannels to, say, 5,000, to ensure I have some headroom. The exact answer you use may depend on the level of conversation sharing you expect to get. So perhaps set SHARECNV first based on your requirement of performance/resource utilization.
You can then set MaxActiveChannels once you add in your Qmgr/Qmgr channels requirement.
Cheers,
Paul.
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| angelovsfan |
| Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| bruce2359 |
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If you are looking for official IBM documentation, then restrict your searches to IBM. A quick google search resulted in this - from IBM:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21174674
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| angelovsfan |
| Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, I've seen that one many times but another article confused me, the problem is I can't yet find it but it stated something like maxchannels/maxactivechannels/maxhands are some of the parameters to watch for when determining number connections, so I tought it's some JMS relation. |
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| tczielke |
| Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:33 am Post subject: |
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I am not aware of any limit for the number of connections that a queue manager will allow. It was a rare occurrence, but we did have one queue manager get up to around 4,000,000 connections, which was probably due to a buggy local bindings application. Normally, the high water mark for our queue manager connections are in the hundreds or double digits.
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:08 am Post subject: |
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so to turn the question on its head.
How many connections are you estimating/planning on having to your Queue Manager?
The issue of how many connections is not simple but in general, the answer is more than you think with proper parameter setting.
Plese let us know how many you want to handle and we can help you configure the QMGR correctly.
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| bruce2359 |
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| angelovsfan wrote: |
| Yes, I've seen that one many times but another article confused me, the problem is I can't yet find it but it stated something like maxchannels/maxactivechannels/maxhands are some of the parameters to watch for when determining number connections, so I tought it's some JMS relation. |
This is all pretty subtle. There is no 'maxconnections' attribute.
MAXCHANNELS and MAXACTIVE limit channels, but have no effect on server-bindings applications.
MAXHANDS limits an instance of an application to connections and open objects. MAXINST and MAXINSTC limit connections to a specific channel instance.
There are other less obvious, but indirect, limiting factors, as well. Consider disk space and RAM.
A colleague at a large retailer has more than 35,000 channels.
If you take the supplied initial values (I hesitate to use the term 'default') for creating Windows/UNIX qmgrs, you will not be able to support 35,000 channels.
What are your requirements?
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| gbaddeley |
| Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| tczielke wrote: |
| I am not aware of any limit for the number of connections that a queue manager will allow. |
Agree. A qmgr should be able to handle 10,000+ connections. I would query any requirement to use large numbers of connections, as there may be more appropriate solutions that are less resource intensive.
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| hughson |
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