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| mqjeff |
 Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:10 am Post subject: Top 5 client features |
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If you were working with a product with an embedded MQ Client that was *at least* MQ V8 - but you didn't know for sure what version it actually was...
What are the top 5 MQ Client features you would want supported?
EDIT:
To be more clear... What are the top 5 MQ Client features you would want to be able to configure/know you are using?
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| Vitor |
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user id & password authentication on connection
SSL authentication to at least TLSv1.1
SSL encryption to at least TLSv1.1
auto reconnect
read ahead
In that order
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| Vitor wrote: |
user id & password authentication on connection
SSL authentication to at least TLSv1.1
SSL encryption to at least TLSv1.1
auto reconnect
read ahead
In that order |
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Channel Table support
MQ Client version visible at MQ server
Exit Support
Full TLS(SSL) support, particularly SSLPEER
I wonder what you are really asking and why? 
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| hughson |
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| PeterPotkay wrote: |
| I wonder what you are really asking and why? |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:55 am Post subject: |
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| I wonder what you are really asking and why? |
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Perhaps I'm trying to make sure that such a system as described continues to be an easy sell to MQ admins... 
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| Vitor |
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| I wonder what you are really asking and why? |
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Why is everyone so suspicious of @mqjeff?
I thought it was just me......
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| exerk |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| hughson wrote: |
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| I wonder what you are really asking and why? |
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Why is everyone so suspicious of @mqjeff?
I thought it was just me...... |
Well, suddenly up popped the M200* devices - maybe, just maybe, they're thinking of MQ Client-on-a-stick?
Toss pebble in pond and watch ripples spread...
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| exerk wrote: |
| maybe, just maybe, they're thinking of MQ Client-on-a-stick? |
Which "they" ... ?
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Which "they" ... ?
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<insert name of favourite conspiracy theory boss here> of course! Who else could it be?
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| exerk wrote: |
| maybe, they're thinking of MQ Client-on-a-stick? |
Anything like that would surely be based on the existing latest MQ Client, and so would have all these features already (Just as MQ Appliance was based on the latest QMgr).
What could be being created that would require us to pick and choose features that have existed for years?
Cheers
Morag
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| fjb_saper |
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| hughson wrote: |
| exerk wrote: |
| maybe, they're thinking of MQ Client-on-a-stick? |
Anything like that would surely be based on the existing latest MQ Client, and so would have all these features already (Just as MQ Appliance was based on the latest QMgr).
What could be being created that would require us to pick and choose features that have existed for years?
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A version reduced to fit small devices? May be your car in the future will have a queue manager to message the manufacturer with everything you're doing. Ueber will send messages to a guidance system that will slide you into the ditch in winter?? 
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:46 am Post subject: |
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It's nice to hear all these speculations. It should be much more obvious than that, for those paying attention ...
And, Morag, it's more a matter of making features visible and configurable.
As I said, it's an "embedded" MQ client, where you at least aren't *supposed* to muck about with the client config directly. And no guarantee/support if you do so.
Some of the things mentioned already exist and are configurable through a couple of means.
But some of them don't. I believe I have a fair idea of what most MQ Admins would want any client to allow them to configure. But I'm still looking to validate those assumptions with real data, so that I can either take things to stakeholders or find ways to cause them to appear anyway...
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:12 am Post subject: |
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Anyone else want to comment? It really will be helpful.
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1. I have seen cases where the status of SVRCONN shows the MQ Clinet version -- only to find out (sometimes after a lengthy investigation  .... ) that the app (Java/JMS) is not really using the full installation of MQ Client but only the mq jars. It would be very helpful if there was a way of easily finding this out.
2. For APPLTAG or RAPPLTAG to show the actual App name for Java apps.
3. I wish it were possible to figure out the language that the app was coded in (C#, .NET etc..) from the qs or chs output.
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