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krypton
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:12 pm    Post subject: FileOutputNode for writing the file to Mainframe file system Reply with quote

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Hi All,

we have a requirement where we need to write the File from UNIX system to IBM Mainframe system using FileOutput Node in IIB.

we are wondering whether it is doable and does any extra setup (beside Write access) is required at IBM Mainframe end so that we can send file from UNIX (IIB) to Mainframe system.

Thank you all in advance!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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File? What is a file?

Use an MQ Queue.

Talk to your zedOS admins to find out what can be done to mount file systems.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:00 am    Post subject: Re: FileOutputNode for writing the file to Mainframe file sy Reply with quote

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krypton wrote:
we are wondering whether it is doable and does any extra setup (beside Write access) is required at IBM Mainframe end so that we can send file from UNIX (IIB) to Mainframe system.


- ask a z/OS sys prog for "write access" and he'll either look at you funny or laugh in your face, then ask what level of RACF authority you mean;

- how do you plan to map UNIX user ids into z/OS ids to get the access once they've set up the RACF rules;

- I'm not aware of any way to directly mount DASD onto any kind of distributed file system (which is not to say there isn't one) but do wonder how a non-hierarchical file system like DASD would relate to the hierarchical one UNIX uses;

- if your z/OS system still has USS running then ask why, and then see if you can mount that to UNIX. But USS is old technology and a bit flakey to rely on for a live system.

You're much better off writing the file out to the IIB Unix file system and getting whatever your site currently uses to move files on to and off z/OS to move it.

Or use MQ as my most worthy associate suggests.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Select the FTP or SFTP option on the fileoutput node.

z/OS supports FTP or SFTP assuming it's enabled. Test out a file transfer using another program like winscp first and then set the values needed in the file node FTP tab.

You don't really want to try to directly write to mainframe disk storage - it may be possible but why make life hard?

Think about ASCII vs EBCDIC issues and choose the correct FTP options.

Configure these FTP values in a Broker FTP configurable service for best practice.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zpat wrote:
z/OS supports FTP or SFTP assuming it's enabled.


Heresy! Burn him! Burn him!

We don't have no stinkin' FTP servers running on z/OS......



Still, if the OP has asked the sys progs for "write access" in RACF, they'll probably be laughing hard enough for the OP to get a good head start after he asks for an open FTP service.

Probably make it out. Maybe not.....


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OOOooo.

Maybe you could use the CICS nodes to invoke a CICS transaction that will write the data to a file....
(or just call the right thing that needs to process the data... )
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mqjeff wrote:
Maybe you could use the CICS nodes to invoke a CICS transaction that will write the data to a file....


You could.

If the data was a significant size, you could start getting contact admin from the CICS people.
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