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mlc |
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 2:35 pm Post subject: When to use a single Full Repository |
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We're building a new cluster that will start with 2 queue managers and then grow. Is it best to use 2 Full Repositories (as recommended), or is it better to start with 1 Full Repository and then add another as the cluster grows?
The cluster will probably not contain more than 4 maybe 6 queue managers. We've read the recommendations to dedicate a server for a Full Repository and nothing else, but with such a small cluster is this still necessary?
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Joined: 25 Mar 2003 Posts: 2538 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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1 FR is a single point of failure. Start with 2 FR. Ensure they are on reliable servers (eg. HA).
If the 2 initial qmgrs will have heavy app messaging usage, it may be justified to set up 2 separate qmgrs as the FRs (even if they are on the same servers as the app qmgrs). Otherwise, the initial qmgrs can be used as the FRs.
I assume the 2 initial qmgrs are on different servers. _________________ Glenn |
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rammer |
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: When to use a single Full Repository |
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Partisan
Joined: 02 May 2002 Posts: 359 Location: England
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mlc wrote: |
We're building a new cluster that will start with 2 queue managers and then grow. Is it best to use 2 Full Repositories (as recommended),. |
Yes
mlc wrote: |
The cluster will probably not contain more than 4 maybe 6 queue managers. We've read the recommendations to dedicate a server for a Full Repository and nothing else, but with such a small cluster is this still necessary?
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Not exactly necessary, more depends on how much processing power / memory your main operating queue managers will take on that server.
There is also a shout that people will say put them on HA but again that is not 100% required as a cluster will work if a repository fails until new objects etc are attempted to be added, and if you have 2 on seperate servers, etc etc it would give some peace of mind (not all though) |
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mqjeff |
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:42 am Post subject: |
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The general recommendation is that you shall count to 2 FRs. Neither shall you count to 1 unless... _________________ chmod -R ugo-wx / |
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Vitor |
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:01 am Post subject: Re: When to use a single Full Repository |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 26093 Location: Texas, USA
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mlc wrote: |
We're building a new cluster that will start with 2 queue managers and then grow. Is it best to use 2 Full Repositories (as recommended), or is it better to start with 1 Full Repository and then add another as the cluster grows? |
No. MQ clusters have 2 Full Repositories. Irrespective of size.
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The cluster will probably not contain more than 4 maybe 6 queue managers. We've read the recommendations to dedicate a server for a Full Repository and nothing else, but with such a small cluster is this still necessary? |
At what point will you decide you need a dedicated queue manager for an FR? How much work will it be to demote one of the existing FRs and add a new FR to the cluster? Then retesting all the applications?
(Hint: much more work than starting out with a properly sized dedicated queue manager as the FR) _________________ Honesty is the best policy.
Insanity is the best defence. |
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bruce2359 |
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:10 am Post subject: |
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Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 9469 Location: US: west coast, almost. Otherwise, enroute.
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The title your post asks:
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When to use a single Full Repository? |
The answer: When one of your two FRs fails, and for only as long as it takes for you to restore the failed FR. _________________ I like deadlines. I like to wave as they pass by.
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