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| Partha.Baidya |
 Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:28 pm Post subject: Why log4j can't be replaced by File Nodes? |
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For developing a logging solution using IIB why I need to use log4j to write log information into files.
Can't I use IIB's inbuilt FileOutput node instead of log4j?
Any views on this? |
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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Does a logging system have to use files?
No it does not
Do you really think that people like searching through possibly GB of raw text to look for a problem?
No they don't. It is hardly easy to use.
There are alternatives to using files for logging/auditing.
Rather than use logging to files inside each flow there are alternatives that can make a complete logging/auditing solution for your environment AND make it highly reusable and configurable.
Think outside the box a bit.
Finally,
log4J is not the answer to life, the universe or anything at all in the IIB world.
If you must use java based logging to files then there are builtin classes in IIB that will replace Log4J totally.
Just my $0.02 of worthless opinion.
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| ruimadaleno |
| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:08 am Post subject: |
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Why building something from scratch when an option is already available ? why re-inventing the wheel ? 
IIB/Broker provide monitoring capabilities (every node in a message flow, in properties tab, has a "monitoring" dedicated tab). Using this you can record some (or all of it) events emitted by a node (example: soap input node transaction start ; soap input terminal out) ,capture the information that travels through the node (in case of soap nodes you can record the xml payload).
All this information is recorded in a database allowing you to quickly search for "interesting" events (do you want to spend you day searching GB of files ???)
There is no overhead, the events are "dumped" to a dedicated queue and you message flow continues processing, no more "wait to file write complete". This is Async and there is a configurable service that handles the database writes for you ... nice 
you can enable/disable monitoring in runtime and in a granular fashion (by message flow, by execution group ,etc) through command line/http console.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:15 am Post subject: Re: Why log4j can't be replaced by File Nodes? |
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| Partha.Baidya wrote: |
| Can't I use IIB's inbuilt FileOutput node instead of log4j? |
No.
- log4j allows files to be rolled over based on date / size / etc. automatically. The FileOutput node does not.
- log4j allows for logging to be in mechanisms other than files. The FileOutput node does not.
- log4j has been superseded by other Java classes that provide the same function is a better way
- IIB has better ways of providing event information than calling out to a Java class.
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| Partha.Baidya |
| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks every body for the response.
I am using monitoring facility provided by IIB.
Just wanted to know if log4j can be replaced by IIB FileOutput node.
@Vitor has given a clear picture what I was looking for.
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