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harsha8127
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:19 pm Post subject: ISeries Migration Doubts Reply with quote

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Hi docs,
I have some Question(doubts) that are not resolved.
1. Is there an process for creating number of queues in a queue manager using single command or another process.
2. There are two Queue manager A & B where i have created Distribution Queuing between them. The full setup is up and running including listeners, Queue managers , port is opened telnet is successful , ping is successful, but still the queue managers are been not connected. The sender channel is showing retrying state. What could be the possibility of the problem.
3. Is there any algorithm for calculating the Queue depth for a project dealing with bank transactions.
4. I have two Queue manager A & B where i have created Distribution Queuing between them. I have kept 100 msg in source Queue manger. 50 msg were reached to the target queue manger but the remaining did not reach , neither there in source Queue manager. What happened to the 50 msgs, what could be the reason.

Thanks in advance.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:57 pm Post subject: Re: Doubts. Reply with quote

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harsha8127 wrote:
Hi docs,
I have some Question(doubts) that are not resolved.
1. Is there an process for creating number of queues in a queue manager using single command or another process.
2. There are two Queue manager A & B where i have created Distribution Queuing between them. The full setup is up and running including listeners, Queue managers , port is opened telnet is successful , ping is successful, but still the queue managers are been not connected. The sender channel is showing retrying state. What could be the possibility of the problem.
3. Is there any algorithm for calculating the Queue depth for a project dealing with bank transactions.
4. I have two Queue manager A & B where i have created Distribution Queuing between them. I have kept 100 msg in source Queue manger. 50 msg were reached to the target queue manger but the remaining did not reach , neither there in source Queue manager. What happened to the 50 msgs, what could be the reason.

Thanks in advance.



These sound very much like exam questions. We don't answer them. That's the policy here.
If you have real questions then please come back to us with them.
Most of what you are asking for is actually answered in...
1) The product documentation
2) Places like this.

Have you researched any of the questions you posed? If so please share your findings here.
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harsha8127
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:10 pm Post subject: Re: Doubts. Reply with quote

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Quote:

These sound very much like exam questions. We don't answer them. That's the policy here.
If you have real questions then please come back to us with them.
Most of what you are asking for is actually answered in...
1) The product documentation
2) Places like this.

Have you researched any of the questions you posed? If so please share your findings here.


These are not exam question neither interview questions,

I am facing these issues in my present project. I am using MQ ver 7.0 in as400. i have 20 QMGRS with 50 Queues in each now i want to migrate to new version 7.5 so i should create all of them in new server with MQ ver 7.5.
So is there any process of creating all queue in any easy process.

And

I have two Queue manager CRM & LifeAsia where i have created Distribution Queuing between them. I have kept 100 msg in source Queue manger CRM. 50 msg were reached to the target queue manger LifeAsia but the remaining did not reach , neither there in source Queue manager. What happened to the 50 msgs, what could be the reason.

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smdavies99
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:28 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thank you for coming back with more explanation.

The documentation should help you migrate to 7.5

As to the messages not getting there... Have you looked in the MQ Error logs? Messages (mostly) just don't go missing.
Were they non-persistent messages?

There is information there to allow you to help you get to the bottom of why they didn't get to where they were supposed to go.
It will require investigation on your part.
- look at the logs
- browse the messages
- is this condition repeatable either at will or at a certain time of day.

We don't have access to your system so we can only go by what information you supply to us. Your first post was almost devoid of specifics hence my question about the exam question.
The more detail you give us, the more detailed our responses will be.

also the title of your post 'Doubts' is not very enticing
Perhaps something like
ISeries migration and missing messages

Might have been better?
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harsha8127
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:12 am Post subject: missing messages and bulk creation of Queues. Reply with quote

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Thanks for your reply sir,

here we dnt want to migrate them we just want to replicate to new server.
i mean creating newly.

I have checked the error logs, there is no kind of information available about this msg and they are persistent msgs. Sir is there any possibility like due to heavy traffic the msgs got struck in XMITQ.

And can please tell me the possibilities for the following case ( how can i go forward to resolve or what condition should i check for this)
There are two Queue manager A & B where i have created Distribution Queuing between them. The full setup is up and running including listeners, Queue managers , port is opened telnet is successful , ping is successful, but still the queue managers are been not connected. The sender channel is showing retrying state.

thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:38 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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If the channel is in retrying state there should be an entry in the qmgr's error logs, on both sides.
Find out what that error is and if it is an sequence number mismatch first read the relevant section of the infocenter before doing anything.
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:59 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Firstly, was this a working configuration, and 50 messages were successfully transmitted from A to B - and suddenly the channel goes into RETRY? And, you've changed nothing?

If I had to guess, I'd suspect that the destination queue at the receiving end of the channel has a MAXDEPTH of 50 messages, AND there is no dead-letter queue at the receiving end of the channel. It is also possible the messages being send from A to B are too long for the destination queue. What is the maxmsg length of the destination queue?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:11 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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smdavies99 wrote:


also the title of your post 'Doubts' is not very enticing
Perhaps something like
ISeries migration and missing messages

Might have been better?

Further, you have two unrelated issues here, 1) channel in RETRY - messages not being transmitted; and 2) how to migrate to a new version?

In future posts, please create separate posts for each issue.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:13 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi Harsha,
Your first Question is to create multiple queue in qmgr right.so, just open vi editor and write the script for queues.run the script for ur qmgr.like below.

runmqsc qmname <vieditor_lq>vieditor.log

.log is indicate queues or created or not.

2 question is chl retrying right.--->you can go with error logs.

4 question is msg loss right--->create dead letter queue in both side and check dlq curdepth and find out what reason msg goes failure.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:22 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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As a side note: It's better to name a thread after the actual subject of the thread. "Questions about using queue managers" or something like that, rather than just "doubts".
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:48 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:
As a side note: It's better to name a thread after the actual subject of the thread. "Questions about using queue managers" or something like that, rather than just "doubts".

Think of your subject line as advertising - you are trying to get someone interested enough to read your post, and offer solutions.
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bruce2359 wrote:
mqjeff wrote:
As a side note: It's better to name a thread after the actual subject of the thread. "Questions about using queue managers" or something like that, rather than just "doubts".

Think of your subject line as advertising - you are trying to get someone interested enough to read your post, and offer solutions.


Don't use a subject line of "Cash Prizes" or "Looking for love".

None of the regular posters will fall for that. Any more.
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Updated the subject line for you...
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Vitor wrote:
bruce2359 wrote:
mqjeff wrote:
As a side note: It's better to name a thread after the actual subject of the thread. "Questions about using queue managers" or something like that, rather than just "doubts".

Think of your subject line as advertising - you are trying to get someone interested enough to read your post, and offer solutions.


Don't use a subject line of "Cash Prizes" or "Looking for love".

None of the regular posters will fall for that. Any more.


We admire your tenacity.
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