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| paustin_ours |
 Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:05 am Post subject: decentralized esb? |
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| paustin_ours |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Yatiri
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| on fourth read i think he talking about adding transformation logic into the service is that right? |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:43 am Post subject: |
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I'd suggest that you do more research to understand the history, purpose and value of ESB's.
Without rendering judgement on the blog to which you referred, I'd further suggest that you stick to well-known and authoritative sources, rather than a random blog.
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| paustin_ours |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Yatiri
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| I'd further suggest that you stick to well-known and authoritative sources, rather than a random blog |
Sometimes authoritative sources tell you what they want you to hear. |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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If you read well between the lines, Andy is not anti-ESB. He just wants to reclaim the centralized control an institute in place an "EndPoint" control.
This may make a lot of sense when looking at a development control but would require a lot of specialized labor. It should work fine if you have a good relationship between functional analysts and ESB developers... but slows down somewhat the development cycle. No more "build me something like that"... First you have to have somebody define what "something like that" is.
There is nothing wrong with that if you have excellent governance and a team that addresses global issues. If you lack that kind of framework you're back in the land of departmental Silos... and confusion...
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:58 am Post subject: |
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I seem to remember having this sort of discussion oh, around 23 years ago.
When I worked at DEC we had an internal project called 'Dialoague Bus' (later called Jabberwocky).
It was to all intents and purposes an ESB framework.
Strange how the wheel turns isn't it.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:01 am Post subject: |
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| fjb_saper wrote: |
| There is nothing wrong with that if you have excellent governance and a team that addresses global issues. If you lack that kind of framework you're back in the land of departmental Silos... and confusion... |
And that kind of governance ends up looking a lot like a centralized ESB team.
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