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| ravipydi |
 Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:33 am Post subject: FileInput node not pulling files from shared folder. |
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I am having issue pulling files from a shared directory using FileINputNode.
I have written a test interface (FileInputNode --> Compute --> FileOutputNode). I am accessing a shared folder in the network (Ex: \\testfs05\Inbound\TestFolderIn\. When I deploy the flow and put a test message in the input folder, the file is not getting picked up. I do see that the node created mqsitransitinm mqsibackout and mqsiarchive fodlers when I deployed the flow which indicates it was able to access the folder. When I drop a file, I see a 0 byte file with the same in the mqsistransitin/locks folder. But the actual file is not getting picked up after that. Message Broker is running on a Windows Server. I have tried this in MB7 and IIB9. Same issue on both the versions. Any help is appreciated. |
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| nelson |
| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:48 am Post subject: |
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| Do you see any errors? If you see the 0 bytes file in the mqsitransit/locks directory in fact the file was detected and locked preventing other flows to pick that file. |
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| ravipydi |
| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:56 am Post subject: |
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| Hi Nelson, Thanks for the reply. No, I did not see any errors in the event log. I tried with debug mode enabled. It never got initiated either. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:15 am Post subject: Re: FileInput node not pulling files from shared folder. |
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| ravipydi wrote: |
| When I drop a file, I see a 0 byte file with the same in the mqsistransitin/locks folder. But the actual file is not getting picked up after that. |
Is whatever's creating the file and/or whatever is supporting the shared folder (I assume the Windows OS but whatever) properly releasing the file lock? I don't mean the 0 byte file (which is a broker device to stop the file being picked up twice) but the file system lock. It sounds to be that broker can see the file in the directory but can't get exclusive access to move it. Because:
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| Message Broker is running on a Windows Server. |
And you must have seen the "File in use" message trying to work on a Windows file at some point and
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| I have tried this in MB7 and IIB9. Same issue on both the versions. |
Both versions with a FileInput problem? More like it's the shared storage with the problem.
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| ravipydi |
| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Hi Vitor, thanks for the response. Since I am testing, I am manually dropping a small text file onto the input directory. I have even tried stopping the flow before dropping the file.
I am able to even delete the file from the input folder when the flow is running and it is not throwing any errors.
It looks like this has to be some permission issue on the shared storage system. I was told that there are no restrictions for any users on shared file system. I will research more on this. I will let you know if I find anything.
Thanks for the help. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:52 am Post subject: |
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For experimental purposes, point the flow at a non-shared location (using mqsiapplybaroverride or similar) and see if the flow picks the file up. If it does, this points the finger firmly at the shared storage. If not, you know to look elsewhere.....
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| MB Developer |
| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Hi ravipydi,
find the error by using User trace , file trace etc.
Better to go for User trace and post that user trace details...
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| ganesh |
| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| When I deploy the flow and put a test message in the input folder, the file is not getting picked up. |
Check to see if your file name matches the value in your file input node. |
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| nelson |
| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| MB Developer wrote: |
Hi ravipydi,
find the error by using User trace , file trace etc.
Better to go for User trace and post that user trace details... |
| ravipydi wrote: |
I did not see any errors in the event log. I tried with debug mode enabled. It never got initiated either. |
| ganesh wrote: |
Check to see if your file name matches the value in your file input node.
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ravipydi said he is able to see the "locking file" in mqsistransitin/locks, so the broker is actually watching the file. |
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| ravipydi |
| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| That is correct. I just set it to * when I noticed it was not worked to see if it can pick any file at all. |
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| Halloween |
| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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I saw this many times from people doing this...
But as I see from his statement he can delete the file from Input directory.
What could have happened is you saved file as .txt file but as you have hidden file extensions you might not know the File extension which you have not put in the File name
Try giving the filename.txt or what ever extension you gave.
Also try to do with wild char like * so that any file can be picked up..
that way you can resolve issue if it is till not picked up after specifying file name as * then we need to see what the issue is |
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| ravipydi |
| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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I finally got it to work. It's the permission issue. I have suspected that, so did many of you. But I did not have a way to tell if that is correct because there were no errors in the Event log. So, instead of reading from the shared folder, I tried writing to it. Now, I can see the error in the event log.
My problem is that Message Broker is running under Local System in Windows Services. I do not have a way to provide access to the Local System to a shared folder. So, I changed Message Broker to run under a System Account which I know has access to the shared folder. I have tested this in IIB9 and it worked. Thank you all for your help.  |
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| ravipydi wrote: |
My problem is that Message Broker is running under Local System in Windows Services. I do not have a way to provide access to the Local System to a shared folder. So, I changed Message Broker to run under a System Account which I know has access to the shared folder. I have tested this in IIB9 and it worked. Thank you all for your help. |
You have found a big hole and dug yourself out of it. Well done. 
If you were running in say a Windows MSCS Cluster you have to run the broker under a properly configured account (especially if the DC is Server 2012 and the IIB nodes are Server 2008).
My best practice tip is to run NOTHING that wants to use MQ (and by inference Broker) under the default System Account. MQ V8 makes it difficult to use it securely so why not set from the beginning and use a named account and go from there. Even on my Windows Development Laptop Broker/IIB has its own account.
IMHO the Default System Account is a windows bodge as far as I'm concerned and like all version of IE should be taken outside and dealt with humanely. 
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| Vitor |
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| For those of you like me who are not 150% fluent in English |
This includes many of our American associates, and many British born more recently to which the phrase "bodge" belongs to an earlier, older generation.
Mine. 
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