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GeneRK4
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:46 pm    Post subject: Handling many HTTP ports in WMB Reply with quote

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In our Integration Landscape,we have multiple Webservices exposed in WMB.Each Webservice is deployed in new execution group with explicitly set HTTP port for a SOAPInput node.Hence we have multiple HTTP ports in WMB.
We have Datapower as facade of Webservice call.

I have got a query whether it is good to have multiple HTTP ports handled by underlying OS.Or handling all the webservice by bihttplisterner would be ideal choice(hit on single point failure) Or whether there is any alternate way for handling these multiple HTTP ports for each service by an external HTTP proxy server.While HTTP proxy server is for handling huge number of concurrent connections(>1200) ,not sure whether this would be applicable in this scenario.
Could someone provide whether there is any good solution for this?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Define "good" solution... What exactly are you trying to do?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Basically we dont want to use multiple http service ports in WMB ,which may affect underlying OS...Hence asking what would be the alternate solutions in Integration Architecture to have multiple webservices exposed at WMB...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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GeneRK4 wrote:
Basically we dont want to use multiple http service ports in WMB ,which may affect underlying OS...Hence asking what would be the alternate solutions in Integration Architecture to have multiple webservices exposed at WMB...

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What exactly is your fear?

You have the choice of using the (execution group/integration service) embedded SOAP Listener or the broker wide HTTP Listener...

But you should make your decision with all the facts. Right now you did not show that you even considered any of the decision driving facts...

Think about what your slowest flow is and what it means to your fastest one if they share a listener... Think about peak / extreme volumes...

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fjb_saper wrote:
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What exactly is your fear?




What exactly do you worry will happen?

FWIW we have multiple execution groups all with an embedded listener fronted by an F5 and that fronted by Datapower and nothing bad seems to be happening.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This was raised by Integration Solution Architects from Business Client side.They are asking us to come up with an alternate solution since there are lot of HTTP ports used and may affect OS level(didnt say anything beyond this..).They are also comparing this with Datapower which is the Front layer of ESB in our Architecture.Datapower is using single port for all the services.And they are asking whether similar architecture can be accomplished in WMB with some alternate solutions like external HTTP proxy...
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GeneRK4 wrote:
This was raised by Integration Solution Architects from Business Client side.They are asking us to come up with an alternate solution since there are lot of HTTP ports used and may affect OS level(didnt say anything beyond this..).They are also comparing this with Datapower which is the Front layer of ESB in our Architecture.Datapower is using single port for all the services.And they are asking whether similar architecture can be accomplished in WMB with some alternate solutions like external HTTP proxy...

If they want that kind of solution restrict the http/Soap communications to DataPower and force them to communicate to the broker by going through DataPower. You'll have a much easier to maintain SSL environment and everybody will be happy...

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanku....Thats a good suggestion...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fjb_saper wrote:
If they want that kind of solution restrict the http/Soap communications to DataPower and force them to communicate to the broker by going through DataPower. You'll have a much easier to maintain SSL environment and everybody will be happy...


again

We use DataPower both for the security and the SSL management.

You also need to chase down this "may affect OS level" - this sounds like management fluff to fill out a report and make it sound like they're thinking about the architecture. Or thinking.

Tell them you can only solve problems that can be described.
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And what do they consider "a lot"?

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