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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:37 am    Post subject: RFE - Allow us to easily compare 2 or more WMB/IIB Brokers Reply with quote

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Title: Allow us to easily compare 2 or more WMB/IIB Brokers

Description: I would like IBM to provide a tool to allow us to easily compare the configuration and/or deployed flows of 2 or more Brokers. Perhaps an enhancement to MB Explorer, or a separate add on plug in that would produce a table with connected brokers as the columns and the broker attributes as rows. Provide a button to highlight differences on the same row. Provide a button to only show rows that have differences. Allow the table to be exported to a spreadsheet. Provide a menu to allow the user to choose what categories of rows should be populated. Design it from the ground up to allow future expansion of additional categories to be compared. Version 0.001 Alpha might have only 1 row - WMB/IIB version - a quick way to confirm all your brokers are at the same version. Version 9.9.0 might get so far as to list properties of all flows in all EGs to confirm we have the same version of a flow deployed.

Use case: We have multiple environments (INT, QA, PROD and DR). We have multiple Brokers in each environment. We need a method to audit the environment to quickly compare brokers so that we can identify inconsistencies between brokers, and adherence to pre-defined site standards.

Yes, we build brokers via scripts. Yes, we have source control for WMB flows and a rigorous deployment process. But we still want a way to audit the environment and make sure all the checks and balances are working.

If all our Brokers are consistent, there will be fewer problems with our Brokers. If there are fewer problems with our Brokers, WMB/IIB's stellar reputation is maintained, and there are fewer PMRs coming your way.
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zpat
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can use the-r -d 2 option on mqsilist to list more detail on the flows.

Would that help?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What's wrong with the already submitted RFE that would allow you to extract a broker config as XML and then use any of the widely available file comparison tools?
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zpat wrote:
You can use the-r -d 2 option on mqsilist to list more detail on the flows.

Would that help?

Yes, that does help, I had not fiddled with the -d option yet. Its still tedious to have to log onto each server, execute this command, and get the data into a spreadsheet where its easy to compare Broker 1 to Broker 2.

There are lots of things that mqsilist -r -d 2 does show, but many more that it does not. There are mqsi* commands for all (almost all?) that other stuff. I'm not saying its impossible, its tedious. To ball it all up and front it with a shiny GUI and make it easy to see differences and allow it all to be exported to a spreadsheet for further filtering and sorting, that is my request for enhancement. I got like a day job and stuff and as much as I'd like to take on developing this I'd rather have it done by IBM and available for all.


smdavies99 wrote:
What's wrong with the already submitted RFE that would allow you to extract a broker config as XML and then use any of the widely available file comparison tools?

It doesn't exist yet.
I'd have to extract the brokers' configs one by one (wah) and somehow figure out how to get all the data from an XML files into a spreadsheet where I could finally start comparing them.
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Michael Dag
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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IMHO an option to unload all config data with a single command, would be more desirable than a 'closed' solution that allows visual compare of two brokers...

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