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new_to_wmb8
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:28 pm    Post subject: Pick the message in bunch Reply with quote

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Hi All,

I have an requirement in which i have to pick the n of messages in bunch from the queue. these messages are not coming in group, all are independent messages.
i have tried using MQ input node property : All message available but i thin it will not work in that scenario as messages are not coming in bunch

any suggestion , how we can pick the n no messages from the queue using MQ input ???? we have to make n as configurable parameter

thanks in advance..
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zpat
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's a bad design to process messages in this way. How can you be sure which message to retrieve? What happens if more arrive? It is essentially going to make the application very unreliable.

Selective retrieval from a queue is supposed to be done using MATCH on correlid or message id.

However it is acceptable to browse messages sequentially from a queue until you find the one you want and then get it.

The MQ API provides lots of support for this including locking messages under the browse cursor, getting a message under the browse cursor and so on.

The question is how much of this is exposed to WMB in the MQ nodes and the answer is not much.

However by careful use of ESQL and the MQGET node, you should be able to achieve it. It's a task for an expert though, not a beginner.
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's almost like you need to collect a set of different input messages, by characteristics of the message, and then process them as a single message.

I wonder if there's a node to do that for you?
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smdavies99
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:
It's almost like you need to collect a set of different input messages, by characteristics of the message, and then process them as a single message.

I wonder if there's a node to do that for you?


The problem is that (guessing here) that the 'n' value is unknown/variable.

IMHO, I feel that the Collector Node is not very good at this sort of thing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He needs to unravel his assumptions that this is an appropriate design.

What, exactly, is this supposed to achieve and why do you think it is necessary to handle the messages in this way?
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