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Angshuman
PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 1:39 am    Post subject: Integration Tookit 9.0.0.1 crashes frequently Reply with quote

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Hi,

There is an issue I am often facing with my Integration Toolkit (version 9.0.0.1, build - 9.0.0.1-20131122-1731).

Issue: When I save my workspace, Toolkit tries to build it, if there is any error it crashes and produce dump files in installation folder. I have never faced this issue with earlier versions.
Can someone help here. Am I missing something.

Thanks,
Angshuman
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you a tad short on RAM? The only time I have had 9.0.0.1 die on me was when there was no RAM available thanks to SQLServer gobbling it all up.
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Angshuman
PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi,

Earlier I thought about memory issue and I have stopped the unwanted services. Working on a client machine where they have many softwares/ servers installed. I am monitoring the memory consumption, but it looks okay to me. I will raise this concern with my client infra team.

Few things I can tell is :
Less hard drive space (ay be 4Gig available)
See CPU spike often making the system a bit slower.
Showing it Uses only 2 Gig RAM, when have 4 GB installed.
I do have SQL server installed in my VDI along with DB2 and many servers.

But there is enough memory available.

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Angshuman
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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There may be enough memory available but is it available to the toolkit?
Change the toolkit shortcut: append
Code:
-vmargs -Xms1024M -XMX1536M

to the shortcut. The vmargs need to be the first arguments on the command line.
Be aware that depending on the segmentation of the memory available the toolkit might not start.
I'd suggest you reboot and start the toolkit right away so that it can grab contiguous memory.

For what you seem to have running a machine with 8 GB of memory would be better.

Memory is cheap. Lack of adequate memory is expensive
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Angshuman
PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thank you for your response.

When I use those command line arguments to start my tookit, I get below error pop up

Java Virtual machine launcher:
Could not create JAVA virtual machine
Fatal Excption has occured. Program will exit.

I am not sure, what it implies?
I have raised this concern with my client. Will share my dump files as well.
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Tibor
PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Look into the .log file under metadata folder. More details here:

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmbhelp/v7r0m0/topic/com.ibm.etools.mft.doc/au16602_.htm
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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Angshuman wrote:
Thank you for your response.

When I use those command line arguments to start my tookit, I get below error pop up

Java Virtual machine launcher:
Could not create JAVA virtual machine
Fatal Excption has occured. Program will exit.

I am not sure, what it implies?
I have raised this concern with my client. Will share my dump files as well.

That's probably because you don't have enough memory available.
Try making the min = max @ 1GB. If that does not work you may revert to 512MB min and no max set... but like I said: memory is cheap. Not having it will cost you hours!!!
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I said: memory is cheap. Not having it will cost you hours!!!


...Well, I think, it is very pitty, that Toolkit even in the 9.x version is still 32bit application (using 32 bit Java) and not 64bit application. Eclipse (the base of Toolkit) has the 64bit version for many years, afaik. I have 16 GB of RAM on my development comp, but the 1,5 GB of RAM is the limit for Toolkit, am I right?

I am afraid, that Toolkit has some internal only 32bit components, which prevents to switch Toolkit to 64bit environment, that is why IBM has not switched Toolkit to 64bit.

Does anyone know, if Toolkit 10.x OpenBeta is based still on 32bit or now on 64bit Eclipse (Java)?

Moreover I would appreciate if HW resource high consuming tasks such is Cleaning and Building workspace of future Toolkit can utilize parallel processing per each available core of CPU - but that is the question, if it can be done due existing or non existing dependencies among builded projects (mxsds and flows) in one workspace.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Looks like it is 64bit.
Code:


C:\Program Files\IBM\IIB\10.0.204.0\common\jdk\jre\bin>java -version
java version "1.7.0"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pwa6470sr4fp1-20130325_01(SR4 FP1))
IBM J9 VM (build 2.6, JRE 1.7.0 Windows Server 2012 amd64-64 Compressed Referenc
es 20130306_140761 (JIT enabled, AOT enabled)
J9VM - R26_Java726_SR4_FP1_20130306_1011_B140761
JIT  - r11.b03_20130131_32403ifx1
GC   - R26_Java726_SR4_FP1_20130306_1011_B140761_CMPRSS
J9CL - 20130306_140761)
JCL - 20130315_01 based on Oracle 7u13-b08

C:\Program Files\IBM\IIB\10.0.204.0\common\jdk\jre\bin>

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote:
Looks like it is 64bit.

Are You sure, You investigated Toolkit and not a Broker? Please, could You open Toolkit, then menu -> Help -> About WebSphere Message Message Broker Toolkit (rather some newer name, but usually the last menu item under Help) -> click button Configuration Details and there search for keys

Code:
com.ibm.vm.bitmode=
and
java.fullversion=


Also where is installed Toolkit? In C:\Program Files\ or in C:\Program Files (x86)\? This is the first dirty check.

Thank You, Stepan
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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V10 is packaged totally differently (at least for the Beta) and everything is in one directory tree. It is one install and not two (again, in the Beta)

The results I posted WERE from the JVM that the toolkit runs.

Just to satisfy your doubts.
Code:

com.ibm.vm.bitmode=64
com.ibm.zero.version=2
eclipse.application=org.eclipse.ui.ide.workbench
eclipse.buildId=M20130204-1200
eclipse.commands=-os


64bit Ok?
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64bit Ok?

...Yes, yes, I can not believe it has happened. Nirvana flooded all over my body.
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