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mikiu
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:22 am    Post subject: Virtualization and WebSphere MQ on AIX Reply with quote

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Hello wise and gentle folks,
We're (not unlike most of everybody else) in the midst of the foaming virtualizations craze. Did some digging on the MQ site and found
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=171&context=SSFKSJ&context=SSEP7X&q1=virtualization&uid=swg21392025&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en
saying among other things:
"Unless stated otherwise, WebSphere MQ has not been specifically tested in Virtualization environments. WebSphere MQ Support is therefore unable to assist in issues related to configuration and setup, or issues that are directly related to the Virtualization environment itself."
How could they even figure if the issue is related to virtualization anyway ... but my question to the collective holding the MQ wisdon is:
Any of you distingushed and experienced users felt any negative effects of virtualizing the physycal AIX 6.1 servers on which MQ 7.x runs (actually LPARs within a P7 complex ) besides the threats of IBM that we may be on our own?
I am grateful for your time and look forward to your comments.
M.U.
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www-03.ibm.com/software/products/en/wmq-hypervisor-aix
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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IBM and most other vendors will hedge like this because neither IBM nor anyone else can speculate precisely on how much or how little resource you allocate to an LPAR in order to guarantee this or that will work correctly. The possibilities of resource allocation can be infinite.

Hardware/software provisioning an LPAR (or VMWare image) must (should?) meet the same requirements as specified in the IBM documentation for a single-system image.
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mikiu
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thank you: my management will be dee-lighted, I' sure ...
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: Virtualization and WebSphere MQ on AIX Reply with quote

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mikiu wrote:
but my question to the collective holding the MQ wisdon is:
Any of you distingushed and experienced users felt any negative effects of virtualizing the physycal AIX 6.1 servers on which MQ 7.x runs (actually LPARs within a P7 complex ) besides the threats of IBM that we may be on our own?
I am grateful for your time and look forward to your comments.
M.U.

Virtualization has been with us for decades on a variety of hardware and software platforms. More specifically, virtualization has been fully supported by IBM for decades.

It's been my experience, and I'm pretty sure you will find more than a consensus here, that WMQ runs perfectly well in an LPAR on p-series hardware with AIX... as long as you have provisioned the LPAR with the required resources (RAM, disk, cpu, network, whatever).

What concerns you and your management?
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Tibor
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:33 am    Post subject: Re: Virtualization and WebSphere MQ on AIX Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
WMQ runs perfectly well in an LPAR on p-series hardware with AIX

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