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jim
PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:22 pm    Post subject: Cluster sender channel indoubt Reply with quote

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The cluster sender is switching from indoubt yes to no continuously?

nothing found in error logs.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is perfectly normal for all sender channels to periodically be 'in-doubt' with the remote system as they are moving messages. It is just a stage in the message transfer protocol and nothing to worry about.

What makes you concerned about it ?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PaulClarke wrote:
It is perfectly normal for all sender channels to periodically be 'in-doubt' with the remote system as they are moving messages. It is just a stage in the message transfer protocol and nothing to worry about.

What makes you concerned about it ?


As its is critical application related the alerting is kept high and it generate alert for indoubt.
But when I check the channel switch from indoub "yes or no" and channel is running status.
so I want to confirm the channel is fine or not
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If a channel is still running then the indoubt status is largely irrelevant. It's only when a channel ends that its indoubt status becomes significant. If a channel ends indoubt then it means that messages on its transmission queue may or may not have been delivered meaning, for example, that those message can not be routed to an alternative Queue Manager until the situation has been resolved.

Of course normally even if a channel does end indoubt the situation will resolve itself automatically the next time the channel starts so even then it is nothing to necessarily worry about. After all it's bound to happen from time to time.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PaulClarke wrote:
If a channel is still running then the indoubt status is largely irrelevant. It's only when a channel ends that its indoubt status becomes significant. If a channel ends indoubt then it means that messages on its transmission queue may or may not have been delivered meaning, for example, that those message can not be routed to an alternative Queue Manager until the situation has been resolved.

Of course normally even if a channel does end indoubt the situation will resolve itself automatically the next time the channel starts so even then it is nothing to necessarily worry about. After all it's bound to happen from time to time.

Cheers,
Paul.



thanks paul

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Message Channel Agents (MCAs) want to send (batches of) messages in Units of Work. While the messages are in-transit, the final result of the UofW can not be known (INDOUBT) until both MCAs acknowledge that the messages have been successfully transmitted, and can be committed out of the xmitq, and committed into the destination queue (or DLQ). Until all of this is complete, the channel will be INDOUBT.

If your messages are very large or your channels are very slow, you will likely notice INDOUBT status more than when the channel intermittently sends few small messages across a very fast channel.

Channel INDOUBT is normal and expected behavior.
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