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Siddu
PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:50 am    Post subject: Unable to deploy Message Flows with collector nodes Reply with quote

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Hi All,
I've a message flow which has two collector nodes.
Collector configuration is empty. When trying to deploy the flow onto Execution group it takes very long time. In first 2/3 attempts flow fails to deploy with timeout notification(after 15 minutes). After that retrying again it gets deployed. I tried using mqsideploy command also but still facing same problem.Is it due to the collector node in a flow? Is there any fix for this?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What version of WMB?

How many other flows are in the EG?

Do other flows expereince the same deploy problem?

And no, a flow with 1-n collector nodes should not fundamentally take longer to deploy than any other flow with the same number of nodes.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A flow can't be redeployed until it has stopped processing all work.

You can confirm that the problem is with the deployment or with the flow trying to finish work by deleting the flow before you deploy it. If it deletes quickly but fails to deploy quickly, then the problem is with the deployment. If it fails to delete quickly but deploys fast then the problem is with the flow still processing work.

Note that there's nothing unique about the collector node here.
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ganesh
PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To isolate and debug the problem better and if you could afford creating a new execution group then create one and try to deploy the flow which has collector nodes, by doing this you can make sure the problem was not because of some other flow keeping the EG busy and hence causing your deploy of flow with collector node take longer time.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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At times, I have seen this problem when someone is running debug and without finishing the message processing, started to deploy a flow in same execution group.
At a higher level, it's the same problem of execution group being busy.
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Siddu
PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:
What version of WMB?

How many other flows are in the EG?

Do other flows expereince the same deploy problem?

And no, a flow with 1-n collector nodes should not fundamentally take longer to deploy than any other flow with the same number of nodes.


Hi Vitor,
WMB version is 7.0
There are no flows on this EG. I'm deleting all the existin flows on this EG before deploying my onto this.

Do Collections and Event Queues have any role to play here? Do I need to make sure these queues are also empty before redeploying? If I delete the existing flow for redeployment but there are messages in Collection/Event System Queues which waiting to be processed, can cause problem?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:
A flow can't be redeployed until it has stopped processing all work.

You can confirm that the problem is with the deployment or with the flow trying to finish work by deleting the flow before you deploy it. If it deletes quickly but fails to deploy quickly, then the problem is with the deployment. If it fails to delete quickly but deploys fast then the problem is with the flow still processing work.

Note that there's nothing unique about the collector node here.


Hi Jeff,
I'm able to delete the existing flow quickly from Execution Group, but not able able to deploy the flow quickly. Do you think the problem might be with Collection/Event System Queues of collector node?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sumit wrote:
At times, I have seen this problem when someone is running debug and without finishing the message processing, started to deploy a flow in same execution group.
At a higher level, it's the same problem of execution group being busy.

Hi Sumit,
I'm redeploying the flow only after terminating debugger and deleting all flows on the Execution Group. If Execution Group is busy with debugging, then it shouldn't allow me to delete the existing flows. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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