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jmac
PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2002 12:03 pm    Post subject: Delete A UPES Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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It appears that you can not delete a UPES Server. After removing all known (to me) objects that refer to my UPES I issue the
following delete

Code:
DELETE SERVER 'BOGUS.FMCSYS.FMCGRP'
  TYPE USER_DEFINED_PROGRAM_EXECUTION_SERVER


And I get the following back from fmcibie

Code:
DELETE cannot be performed for SERVER 'BOGUS.FMCSYS.FMCGRP'. It is used by the following entities:
FMC25640E ACTIVITYTEMPLATE  Bogus.
FMC25640E ACTIVITYTEMPLATE  Bogus.
FMC25640E ACTIVITYTEMPLATE  Bogus.
FMC25640E ACTIVITYTEMPLATE  Bogus.
FMC25640E ACTIVITYTEMPLATE  Bogus.
FMC25640E ACTIVITYTEMPLATE  Bogus.
FMC25640E ACTIVITYTEMPLATE  Bogus.

Note: an ACTIVITYTEMPLATE is not a valid FDL Object Type.

Upon inspection of the Table "ACTIVITY_TEMPL" I see that there are indeed 7 entries that refer to my UPES (I assume one for
each of the 7 supported platforms), however, the actual Program object has been deleted.

Is it possible to Remove a UPES definition? I can only successfully remove a UPES IF I have never referred to it in a Process Model. Is this a Bug? or am I doing something wrong?
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Ratan
PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2002 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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John,
I Just tried to do what you mentioned, and I get back the same Error messages.
I get that ACTIVITYTEMPLATE error for each activity in the process model that reffered to that UPES.

Why do you want to delete the UPES? You can always define a new UPES and use it instead.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2002 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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Laze:

Unfortunately I have a polluted runtime DB that has these UPES definitions in it that I need to remove without touching the rest of the database.

I have openned a PMR with IBM, and will let you know here what they have to say.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2002 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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The following documents my exchange with IBM on this issue through the IBM Newsgroup. A PMR has also been assigned and if I get any further information I will post that here.



John,

the problem is the following: Currently, process templates cannot be deleted from the database.
This is not trivial because before deleting a process template, it must be checked if there are
any process instances referring to the process template.

The delete process template API does actually not delete the process template. Instead
the effect of this API is that new process instances cannot be created anymore from
this process template. So, the process template is not visible anymore on template lists.

If you want to delete an UPES definition, the deletion should only possible if:
1. All visible process templates do not refer to this UPES.
2. All active process instances belong to process templates which do not refer to this UPES.

This problem has been addressed with a SupportPac which will be shipped .This SupportPac helps you manage the deletion of process templates.

Andreas Wickenhaeuser


- - -

Andreas:

Possibly I don't understand what you are saying....

Are you saying it is NOT possible to delete a UPES until this fix comes out?

Or are you saying I should be able to do it? If this is the case I still have a problem The only way I have successfully deleted a UPES is when I have NEVER imported any template which has an activity that refers to the UPES. As soon as I import a Template that refers to the UPES I can no longer delete that UPES, Even after deleting all other objects referred to by the Template (Structures, Programs, and the Template itself).

I currently have a UPES that is no longer referenced by any existing Instances or Templates. In fact I never created any instances from the Template.

John

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John,

yes, currently it is not possible to delete a UPES if this UPES has ever been referred by a process template.
As soon as you translate a process to a process template and this process referrs to the UPES, currently you cannot delete the UPES anymore

Andreas Wickenhaeuser


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