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| EricCox |
 Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:30 am Post subject: Full Repository and Broker 6.0.0.9 Same Machine |
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To all,
Is it a best practice to have MQ Full Repository and Broker 6.0.0.9 on the same box AIX 5.3?
The reason I ask is that we are experiencing unexpected timeouts on the Broker box that also hosts the MQ Full Repository. We have 6 Brokers in Production and the only one experiencing unexpected timeouts on the Aggregate Control Node is the one Broker that hosts the Full Repository. It seems that MQ is having some kind of problem on this machine delivering messages to the Queue and allowing the Message Flow to execute in the 6 second timeout window.
Is there something to look for, a configuration, or something to watch in the logs etc.?
Thanks,
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:42 am Post subject: |
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Anyone I've ever talked with always disclaims the word "best" in your phrase. It may be a practice, but "best" is too nebulous to nail down.
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| EricCox |
| Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:45 am Post subject: Supported |
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Is it an IBM formally supported well known working configuration?
Would you build it out that way? Why? Why not? |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:07 am Post subject: Re: Supported |
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| EricCox wrote: |
| Is it an IBM formally supported well known working configuration? |
It is not.
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| Would you build it out that way? Why? Why not? |
I would not because WMBv6.0.0.9 is seriously out of support by IBM (see above) and I would refuse to build using something that old.
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| EricCox |
| Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:12 am Post subject: Refusal |
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You must work at a place where not supporting systems you are assigned to is acceptable.
Refusal is insubordination around here. |
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| EricCox |
| Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:13 am Post subject: It is Not |
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| Is it not supported because it is an incorrect mix of installation and configuration or because you dont' want to work on older infrastructure? |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:15 am Post subject: |
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On the other account I would make sure that the Full repositories do not have any data going through them. This will minimize the turn around time needed for the cluster information flow from PR to FR to PR...
I know you are in the upgrade process. Consider upgrading to MQ 7.5.0.2
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:18 am Post subject: Re: Refusal |
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| EricCox wrote: |
| You must work at a place where not supporting systems you are assigned to is acceptable. |
I've worked at that sort of place for 20 years both as a contractor & an employee.
| EricCox wrote: |
| Refusal is insubordination around here. |
I don't offer career or personal advice for reasons obvious to those familiar with my career or personal life. But I'd walk.
Returning to your question it's not a best practice to have a WMBv6.0.0.9 anywhere because it's out of support by years.
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| EricCox |
| Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:19 am Post subject: |
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FJ,
You say,
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| I would make sure that the Full repositories do not have any data going through them |
What do you mean by this? What makes 'data going through them'?
Thanks. I hope all is well with you.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:19 am Post subject: Re: It is Not |
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| EricCox wrote: |
| Is it not supported because it is an incorrect mix of installation and configuration or because you dont' want to work on older infrastructure? |
It's not supported by IBM. My desires in this matter are irrelevant.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| EricCox wrote: |
| What do you mean by this? What makes 'data going through them'? |
Data going through them = used by applications. FRs (irrespective of WMB) shouldn't be used for applications.
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| EricCox |
| Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:22 am Post subject: Your experience is important |
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Vitor,
Thanks. I truely rely on your experience and am very appreciative.
Is there some document or something stating this is not a supported configuration?
Thanks again,
Eric |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| EricCox wrote: |
FJ,
You say,
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| I would make sure that the Full repositories do not have any data going through them |
What do you mean by this? What makes 'data going through them'?
Thanks. I hope all is well with you.
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What I mean is that the ONLY role of the FR in the cluster is to be a Full Repository. They do no host any queue. The only queues of type QL on the FR should the the SYSTEM.* queues. This also means that the broker would have to be on a PR....
Hope all is well with you too.
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| EricCox |
| Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:28 am Post subject: Ahh, understood |
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Yes, I am a solid proponent and have built systems and my personal approach that separation by role is a truely rock solid foundation to build upon.
I have made the suggestion to stop the broker on the Full Repository and take it out of the online processing Broker is performing.
There are no other application components running on this system. It is just Broker and MQ FR. |
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| EricCox |
| Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:29 am Post subject: Excellent |
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When I meet with the Delivery guys later I will mention your input and Vitor's as well.
Thank you for your input. It is very very important. |
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