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achocks
PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:28 am    Post subject: WMB 7.0 and 8.0 - Coexistance Reply with quote

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I have WMB 7.0 run time installed in my Windows 7 machine. Now I want to install WMB 8.0 also. My concern is how the port numbers will be used...(7080 - HTTP and 7800 SOAP Ports). I dont want to mess-up the existing WMB 7.0 installation.

Anyone who has installed both in the same Windows machine, can you please share..

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So when you create a new runtime with V8 simply change them

OR

only run one broker at a time.

No different to running multiple brokers on the same machine really.
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achocks
PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks. I get the point.

Here is my next question..

When I installed WMB 7.0 , all the ports are automatically assigned. i.e 7080 and 7800. Now when I install WMB 8.0 run time, what port it will assign.. It will also assing the same port numbers 7080 and 7800 or it will assing '0' since it is already used by other.

May be I dont have to go this far...But trying to understand the istalation process..

Thanks in advance..
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Vitor
PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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achocks wrote:
When I installed WMB 7.0 , all the ports are automatically assigned. i.e 7080 and 7800. Now when I install WMB 8.0 run time, what port it will assign.. It will also assing the same port numbers 7080 and 7800 or it will assing '0' since it is already used by other.


What does the v8 documentation say about how it automatically allocates port numbers? Does it say anywhere that it ever allocates port 0?

Another relevant question is if you're worried about the port numbers that will be assigned automatically, why not assign them manually? The port numbers you quote are the defaults for a broker level listener. You don't have to accept those numbers, and you don't have to use a broker level listener.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Intesting...Installed WMB 8 run time on top of WMB 7.

Checked the HTTP port numbers...both of them is using 7080 ..

Not sure what will happen if both are running at the same time though...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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achocks wrote:


Not sure what will happen if both are running at the same time though...


Not a lot unless you are using any of the nodes that use the port (HTTP Etc)

If I were you I'd have a set of scripts that configured my broker. IT isn't hard to create them so that 30 seconds in an editor and bingo you have it all setup to create a new broker with new ports.

Go on, give it a try.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes. Both uses HTTP ports.

Bure. I will give a shot to configure through script ..Thanks for your advice..
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just to confuse you a bit more...

Did you know that execution groups can run their own HTTP listeners, too?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Esa wrote:
Did you know that execution groups can run their own HTTP listeners, too?


If he read my earlier post he does....
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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achocks wrote:
Intesting...Installed WMB 8 run time on top of WMB 7.

Checked the HTTP port numbers...both of them is using 7080 ..


If you've really installed one on top of the other, the v7 would have been overwritten and not running / using port numbers.

If you've in fact installed both to the same machine then as described here they will not install on top of each other.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:
Esa wrote:
Did you know that execution groups can run their own HTTP listeners, too?


If he read my earlier post he does....


If he read your earlier post, he knows that there are broker level listeners...

And if he reads the same way I do - the first 100 characters of every line on a high resolution widescreen display - he doesn't know even that
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Esa wrote:
And if he reads the same way I do - the first 100 characters of every line on a high resolution widescreen display - he doesn't know even that


If you're not reading all of whatever you're looking at, then yes there are things you probably won't come to know.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks smdavies99. Really appreciate it.

Others:
Yes..When I say WMB 8 was installed on top of the WMB 8 , it is just installed in the same machine. I KNOW that it is not overwriting... it was clear in my first post...

I come to the blogs to see to save some time...as everyone does..Not to waste time or make fun of others ...get some life guys!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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achocks wrote:
I come to the blogs to see to save some time...as everyone does..Not to waste time or make fun of others ...get some life guys!


We're not here to save time, especially as it's usually faster to look things up in the documentation than wait for us.

I do come here to waste time and make fun of people.

If you have any suggestions of a webste where I can "get some life", ideally one that takes credit cards, I'll gladly buy myself some. Or you could send a gift card; ideal Easter gift.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good way to increase your post count dude...keep going!!
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