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SvenX
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:53 am    Post subject: Block Nessus with CHLAUTH still gives FDC Reply with quote

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Joined: 24 Jan 2013
Posts: 2

Hi All,

Every week we get a Nessus-scan on our environment.
To avoid unnecessary call-outs, I want to block the nessus-host so we don't get an FDC complaining about "invalid data from the nessus-host".

I have no control over the Nessus scan nor the firewall. So I've setup CHLAUTH
My current setup:

Code:

display qmgr chlauth
     1 : display qmgr chlauth
AMQ8408: Display Queue Manager details.
   QMNAME(QM2)                        CHLAUTH(ENABLED)
display chlauth(*)
     2 : display chlauth(*)
AMQ8878: Display channel authentication record details.
   CHLAUTH(SYSTEM.EXPL.SVRCONN)            TYPE(ADDRESSMAP)
   ADDRESS(192.168.1.181)                   MCAUSER(mqm)
AMQ8878: Display channel authentication record details.
   CHLAUTH(SYSTEM.*)                       TYPE(ADDRESSMAP)
   ADDRESS(*)                              USERSRC(NOACCESS)
AMQ8878: Display channel authentication record details.
   CHLAUTH(*)                              TYPE(BLOCKADDR)
   ADDRLIST(192.168.1.12 ,192.168.1.13)


The problem is that we still get an FDC. The logs say that it's blocking the machine and immediately after that, it complains about a tcp/ip error.

The new FDC info:
Code:

| Major Errorcode   :- rrcE_BAD_PARAMETER                                     |
| Minor Errorcode   :- OK                                                     |
| Probe Type        :- INCORROUT                                              |
| Probe Severity    :- 2                                                      |
| Probe Description :- AMQ6125: An internal WebSphere MQ error has occurred.  |
| FDCSequenceNumber :- 30                                                     |
| Comment1          :- Invalid Handle                                         |
| Comment2          :-                                                        |
| Comment3          :-                                                        |


Any ideas? The server is an AIX 6100-07, MQ 7.1.0.1
Thank you

Sven
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Joined: 25 Jun 2008
Posts: 17447

Side-channel solutions:
  • every week that you get a page out, send a note to the full management chain of the team that manages the nessus monitor explaining that you have been paged unnecessarily, and explain the cost incurred for that pageout - amount of money per hour you are worth, etc. etc. etc.
  • investigate configuring a firewall on the AIX box itself that blocks port-scanners and/or the specific known hosts that the nessus software runs from
  • investigate altering the qm configuration to cause it to ignore the relevant error messages.
  • alter the configuration of your pageout system so it can recognize this particular set of circumstances and not page you for fdcs thrown by someone telnetting to your listener port
  • turn off your pager
  • stop moniitoring the queue manager for FDCs
  • alter the configuration of your pageout system so it recognizes this particular set of circumstances and pages the nessus team, rather than you.
  • alter your pageout procedures so that every time you get paged for this, you immediately page the nessus team


And probably a few others - stop the listener, stop the qmgr, etc. etc. etc.

I don't think channel authorizations occur soon enough in the listener processing to allow you to prevent this particular message from being logged *somewhere* and *somehow*.

And I suspect that T-Rob would say that it shouldn't be allowed to stop the queue manager from logging all such connection attempts *somewhere*....
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SvenX
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Joined: 24 Jan 2013
Posts: 2

Thanks for the reply

If possible I'd like to block it on the MQ level since that's under my control. Setup a firewall on the AIX is plan B but I'm not ready to go for that yet.

The monitoring I also control so that's another path.

For clarification, I don't mind a log-entry, I just don't want the FDC.

Kind regards
Sven
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