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| narayanarvr |
 Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:56 am Post subject: Need help on hsMQ and MB training |
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| I have been working on MQ for the last 10 months, but I know basics of MQ which I learned from my senior, I know MQ explorer, creating queues and queue managers, channels etc. but I want to settle as MQ ADMIN and want in depth analysis how can I get ? |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Read, study, think, try.
Review the certification exam materials and take the practice test.
Read lots and lots and lots of threads here. |
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| narayanarvr |
| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| can you pls provide me some links to MQ certification materials, your help much appreciated |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:44 am Post subject: |
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| narayanarvr wrote: |
| can you pls provide me some links to MQ certification materials, your help much appreciated |
If you can't learn to find materials using Google then I fear for your future career.... 
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| zpat |
| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:25 am Post subject: |
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I used to work with consultants (not from IBM). If they couldn't get onto Google they couldn't function.  |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| exerk |
| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| zpat wrote: |
| I used to work with consultants (not from IBM). If they couldn't get onto Google they couldn't function. |
That's because IBM stopped producing the manuals in pdf form... 
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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| zpat wrote: |
| I used to work with consultants (not from IBM). If they couldn't get onto Google they couldn't function. |
That's because IBM stopped producing the manuals in pdf form... |
And then there's IBMs search engine...
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| exerk |
| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
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| zpat wrote: |
| I used to work with consultants (not from IBM). If they couldn't get onto Google they couldn't function. |
That's because IBM stopped producing the manuals in pdf form... |
And then there's IBMs search engine... |
I'm not sure whether zpat was alluding to lack of internet access, or just general lack of knowledge, for his 'consultants' - if the former...
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| zpat |
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| Dolapevich |
| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| This document has all the basic information you need to know. Points to MQSeries Primer |
I been working as junior MQ Admin for the last 6 months. I have a strong Linux/Unix backgroup, specially Debian/Redhat and Solaris.
From my perspective I see it hard to understand the underlying principles and concepts of Message Queueing.
I still struggle to understand what a SRVCON is or where is the limit between qmgr and app in message format/payload.
I see IBM MQseries like a very particular mix of Oracle/Postgresql and Qmail 
Moreover, the tool itself doesn't makes it easier; it's command nomenclature and the way it shows output data is very zOS/IBMish... and come on, why on earth there is no readline support on runmqsc?
Just sharing my perspective.
Regards,
Sebastian |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| Dolapevich wrote: |
From my perspective I see it hard to understand the underlying principles and concepts of Message Queueing.
I still struggle to understand what a SRVCON is or where is the limit between qmgr and app in message format/payload. |
All three topics are covered clearly in the documentation. Even the concepts of queueing
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| Moreover, the tool itself doesn't makes it easier; it's command nomenclature and the way it shows output data is very zOS/IBMish |
From an IBM product you would expect a consistent look and feel. I think the distributed version is much more "distributed" than z/OS (speaking as a z/OS guy)
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| come on, why on earth there is no readline support on runmqsc? |
What support would you like? The runmqsc app doesn't do much, and doesn't take that many parameters. The commands you can pass through it have almost endless variety.
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| Just sharing my perspective. |
To which you're entirely welcome. Note also the RFE system on developerWorks allows you to not only get this perspective to a wider audience, but is a platform for any suggestions you may have to improve the product. It's newcomers like yourself who have the clearest perspective.
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:29 am Post subject: |
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In terms of readline support for runmqsc, I'm not sure what more than
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| cat myMQSC.txt |runmqsc qmgr |
(and other shell variants) is needed?
Would you like to be able to
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| runmqsc qmgr myMQSC.txt |
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| Dolapevich |
| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:05 am Post subject: |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
In terms of readline support for runmqsc, I'm not sure what more than
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| cat myMQSC.txt |runmqsc qmgr |
(and other shell variants) is needed?
Would you like to be able to
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| runmqsc qmgr myMQSC.txt |
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Libreadline is a lib that implements command line replacement, substitution, history, etc.
http://cnswww.cns.cwru.edu/php/chet/readline/rltop.html
Maybe I spend too much time trying to get my commands on the runmqsc shell and would like a history, for example. With libreadline that is easy to implement.
Truth be told, everytime I find an MQ person, the stdin method is used.
I should go that way.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| Dolapevich wrote: |
Libreadline is a lib that implements command line replacement, substitution, history, etc.
http://cnswww.cns.cwru.edu/php/chet/readline/rltop.html
Maybe I spend too much time trying to get my commands on the runmqsc shell and would like a history, for example. With libreadline that is easy to implement.
Truth be told, everytime I find an MQ person, the stdin method is used.
I should go that way. |
Those of us of a certain age grew up with stdin and shell scripting.
Those of us with experience in certain markets avoid utilities that come with that kind of license. Because organizations in those markets are filled with guys in grey suits with geometrical imaginations.
Everything you want to do can be done with scripts. I'll take your word this other thing is easier.
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