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doubtmaster
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:01 pm    Post subject: Xmitq with source QMGR, msgs increasing Reply with quote

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Hello All,

we have a problem in our support project architecture. We found one xmitq curdepth is increasing. We checked for channel but no channel is using it.

this Xmitq is created with the source qmgr name only.

Someone help me why an xmitq created like that and under use.
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Someone is using the name of the queue manager to address messages. That's why they're getting put to the xmitq.
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doubtmaster
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But, in our architecture they are using FTF v4 (PM4 data), is it using ?

Till 2 days before we didn't face this issue. now suddenly it is happening. Application team people saying they are inititating the right requests only.
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Look at the connection handles on the queue, find out what process has it open for writing.

Something is addressing messages using the name of this xmitq as either the name of a queue or the name of a queue manager.

See if the messages on the queue have a transmission header on them. If they do, you know it's because someone is trying to use the name of the queue as the name of a queue manager. If they don't, it's because someone is using it as the name of a queue.
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doubtmaster
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We couldn't check the QSTATUS for finding the processes connected. i think xmitq never let us see the handles

checked the header and it started with XQH but not sure who is keeping these msgs and who created this queue without channel association.
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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An XQH tells us that the app mqopened a QRemote definition. Look for the original MQMD and application data in the xmitq.

You could put disable the xmitq, then wait for someone to call to complain.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
An XQH tells us that the app mqopened a QRemote definition.


Or they didn't use a Remote Q definition but instead supplied both the destination QM and destination Q in the MQOPEN / MQPUT1.

doubtmaster wrote:

this Xmitq is created with the source qmgr name only.

The source QM? The XMITQ on QM1 is called QM1? Or did you mean the destination QM?
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doubtmaster
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes both QMGR and XMITQ having same name.
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ooooh, ooooh!

Does the qmgr object default xmitq attribute specify an xmitq name? And is that name also the same name as the qmgr?
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doubtmaster
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes they have remoteq with this xmitq configured inside. It was created back in 2010. Till now no issues...

Didn't find MQMD in msg header....

Edit by exerk: Following two duplicate posts removed.
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A message in an xmitq should contain an XQH (with its own MQMD), and your original application-created MQMD and application data.

Display a few complete messages from the xmitq (with amqsbcg, or equivalent). You may suppress proprietary application data - we don't need to see that.
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In addition to what bruce requested...

What is your exact QM name?
On this same QM, what is the exact XMITQ definition that you are questioning? Post the whole definition from a runmqsc command.

What you have said so far is the QM name is something like APPLE, and you are saying the XMITQ on the APPLE QM is aslo called APPLE, and that it has been like this since 2010, and things have been fine. This cannot be.
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