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| serpota |
 Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:04 am Post subject: We need to connect to a remote MQ server ... without MQ |
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Good evening all of you and Happy New Year !
We have a project to connect to a remote MQ Server, using "server" interface (not MQ Client API), but cant use MQ product.
Is there a way or a product or an API to connect a Windows XP to a remote MQ Server using a Sender channel plus a Receiver channel plus a bunch of queues ?
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| mvic |
| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:02 am Post subject: Re: We need to connect to a remote MQ server ... without MQ |
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| You can connect to a queue manager using the MQ client libraries that are downloadable from the IBM SupportPacs site. |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:35 am Post subject: Re: We need to connect to a remote MQ server ... without MQ |
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| serpota wrote: |
Is there a way or a product or an API to connect a Windows XP to a remote MQ Server using a Sender channel plus a Receiver channel plus a bunch of queues ? |
Sender/receiver channels are created on WMQ queue managers on server platforms. Queues are created on WMQ queue managers on server platforms.
If your requirement is to NOT have a queue manager on the client platform, then you need to install the WMQ Client on your client platform. The WMQ Client connects via a SVRCONN channel on the queue manager.
Read the WMQ Clients documentation on the InfoCenter
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: We need to connect to a remote MQ server ... without MQ |
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| serpota wrote: |
| Is there a way or a product or an API to connect a Windows XP to a remote MQ Server using a Sender channel plus a Receiver channel plus a bunch of queues ? |
No. Sender channels link queue managers, not applications to queue managers.
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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A more succinct answer.
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| zpat |
| Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| Strictly speaking, yes. Websphere Apps Server works this way (or can do). |
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| Esa |
| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:01 am Post subject: Re: We need to connect to a remote MQ server ... without MQ |
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| serpota wrote: |
We have a project to connect to a remote MQ Server, using "server" interface (not MQ Client API), but cant use MQ product.
Is there a way or a product or an API to connect a Windows XP to a remote MQ Server using a Sender channel plus a Receiver channel plus a bunch of queues ?
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Such a requirement can only come from an architect...
Support pack MA0Y lets you connect to MQ using http protocol. It uses http verbs POST/GET/DELETE for MQ operations PUT/BROWSE/GET respectively. In case your requirement is just to avoid using MQ CLient connections.
There is no product or API that would allow you to mime MQ channels - at least commercially available on open market. You could try to write one yourself, like the notorious "security consultant" did with MQ Client protocol a couple of years ago. I don't recommend. I wouldn't be surprised if your requirement had it's roots in the presentation the consultant hold at a hackers conference. But those holes have been shut! |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:19 am Post subject: |
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There are a couple of different HTTP bridges for WMQ, that come with the product.
HTTP is not MQ, however, and is not transactional and etc. So if you're really trying to use MQ for the features of MQ, then bridging into it from HTTP may not be the best idea. |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Esa |
| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:31 am Post subject: Re: We need to connect to a remote MQ server ... without MQ |
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I don't think the OP wants to use http. It was me who mentioned http, and that was just the common trick of deliberately misunderstanding the OP's request to make him refine it.
| serpota wrote: |
Is there a way or a product or an API to connect a Windows XP to a remote MQ Server using a Sender channel plus a Receiver channel plus a bunch of queues ?
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Here you see, he needs to have MQ Server functionality without paying the license fees. If i were him I would next try to find a open source JMS provider that has an embedded MQ bridge. |
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| zpat |
| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| Why not use the MQ client? |
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| exerk |
| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:22 am Post subject: |
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There is the MSMQ-MQ Bridge, and there is an MSMQ component within Windows XP...
...just another pebble in the pond 
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:53 am Post subject: Re: We need to connect to a remote MQ server ... without MQ |
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| serpota wrote: |
| We have a project to connect to a remote MQ Server, using "server" interface (not MQ Client API), but cant use MQ product. |
The key problem is that if the application is using the "server" interface (i.e. a bindings connection) then none of these solutions will work all that well or at all.
If the application is using bindings for good & sufficient reason (like transaction control) then recoding it as a client isn't going to help either.
IMHO it's a classic case of trying to implement a technical solution rather than exploring the requirement.
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| zpat |
| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| Not many general purpose MQ apps use two-phase commit and therefore require Bindings or Extended client. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:05 am Post subject: |
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| zpat wrote: |
| Not many general purpose MQ apps use two-phase commit and therefore require Bindings or Extended client. |
Hence my point about the solution rather than the requirement.
"We don't want to use client" rather than "what kind of connection do we need?"
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