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mchan
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:27 pm    Post subject: Asymmetric performance for send and receive over network Reply with quote

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We are designing for the MQ communication for remote client.

Several communication paths are setup and tested for performance (message throughput and latency)


1 - Send with Direct MQI connection

Remote client [Sender] -> QM (our host network) -> local Q -> Server [Receiver]

2 - Send with HUB and SPOKE

Remote client [Sender] -> Remote Q -> SPOKE QM (client local network) -> HUB QM (our host network) -> local Q -> Server [Receiver]

3 - Receive with Direct MQI connection

Remote client [Receiver] <- QM (our host network) <- local Q <- Server [Sender]

4 - Receive with HUB and SPOKE

Remote client [Receiver] <- Local Q <- HUB QM (client local network) <- SPOKE QM (our host network) <- Remote Q <- Server [Sender]


We found that throughput of case 2 are better than case 1, which is as expected because message channel communication is optimized and better than MQI communication over network.

However
- the throughout of case 3 is quite poor, which is only ~30% of what is in case 1.
- and throughout of case 4 is also poor, which is smaller than case 3.

Could you offer some insight on this?
1) why throughput for receiving message over network is far poorer that sending message
2) why Message channel communication is not better than MQI over network for receiving message

P.S. we have checked with network team and found that there is no difference for send and receive path between our remote client and our host.

Thanks!
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zpat
PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For the client app, check out the MQI improvements in WMQ v7, do with read ahead.

Quote:
To enable read ahead:
•To configure read ahead at the queue level set the queue attribute, DEFREADA to YES.
•To configure read ahead at the application level:
◦to use read ahead wherever possible use the MQOO_READ_AHEAD option on the MQOPEN function call. It will not be possible for the client application to use read ahead if the DEFREADA queue attribute has been set to DISABLED.
◦to use read ahead only when read ahead is enabled on a queue, use the MQOO_READ_AHEAD_AS_Q_DEF option on the MQOPEN function call.


Are these messages persistent or non-persistent? Syncpointed or not?
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: Asymmetric performance for send and receive over network Reply with quote

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mchan wrote:

...which is as expected because message channel communication is optimized and better than MQI communication over network.

I'm not sure exactly what you are comparing here. It is WMQ Client channel communications across a network (not cross-memory) vs. Sender-Receiver type channel communications across a network (not cross-memory).

Network flows (excluding WMQ from the calculation) will reflect the quality of your network - including stops/hops at firewalls, routers, re-transmissions of packets, etc.) should be identical.

Are the two ends of the channel (either type) identical platforms? Equally provisioned? If not, the smaller, slower platform will certainly exhibit slower throughput - including TCP/IP flows.

So, exactly what (which portions of the throughput) are you monitoring? Just TCP/IP flows? Total round-trip transaction-time (requesting app to receiving app to requesting app)?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's impolite to ask a question, and then not reply to those who try to help.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Could it be a computer science class assignment?
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