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mqmatt
PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:19 am    Post subject: WebSphere Message Broker V8 Reply with quote

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WebSphere Message Broker V8 has been announced.
Some of the highlights from the announce letter (http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.jsp?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/9/877/ENUSZP11-0479/index.html&lang=en)

* Comprehensive support for Microsoftâ„¢ .NET environments
* New Data Format Description Language (DFDL) based parser and graphical data mapper tooling for text and binary data
* Enhanced auditing of data with new edit, record, and replay functionality complemented by comprehensive graphical tooling
* Direct connectivity and productivity aids for integrating with IBM® Sterling Connect: Direct
* New Hypervisor Edition for IBM AIX®
* Tiered pricing model, including new Express® Edition
* Support for Web Services Reliable Messaging (WS-RM)

Happy to talk about the content here. (And there is *lots* more besides.) We'll also be covering everything at the WebSphere Technical Conference in Berlin next week.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Great stuff!

What is the compatibility between WMB 8 and WMQ 7.1? If not in place yet, do we have a target date that is shareable?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We're planning to add MQ V7.1 support as a lifecycle activity after GA.
MB V8 has the same MQ pre-req as V7 (i.e. MQ V7.0.1) which should simplify migration.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can you speak to some of the bright performance enhancing features? Such as any special code that leverages the POWER7 architecture. Also, any changes to the Bar File Override process, such as a nifty namespace-like mechanism?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lancelotlinc wrote:
any special code that leverages the POWER7 architecture.


I'm so surprised I drank more coffee.

Perhaps the z/OS version fixes your favourite CPU issue?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are no new headline features for Power7; that's not to say there aren't internal optimisations... I'm just not aware of any.

As far as general performance enhancements go, it's too early to say what the big improvements will be as we're still doing the analysis! Features to look out for includes a proper graphical mapper, which now uses efficient, natively deployed MSL maps rather than compiling to ESQL*. And problems with inefficient flows should be easier to diagnose now because of a new activity log, which tells you exactly what a flow or RM is doing (connected to a queue, put a message... that kind of thing).

There are some significant improvements to deployment. We now have separately deployable subflows and ESQL (which makes impact/change analysis a piece of cake), a full Java API for message flow development (so you could get the full end-to-end development and deployment lifecycle in a single script), and dynamic configurable services. You can also group your resources together into separately deployed and managed use cases, using the new applications and libraries feature which spans development, deployment and management.

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Edit: * That's not to say ESQL is inefficient The compilation that the old mapper did was, though.
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Vitor
PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqmatt wrote:
problems with inefficient flows should be easier to diagnose now because of a new activity log, which tells you exactly what a flow or RM is doing (connected to a queue, put a message... that kind of thing).


Oooo.....a new stick to beat developers with!

mqmatt wrote:
There are some significant improvements to deployment. We now have separately deployable subflows and ESQL (which makes impact/change analysis a piece of cake), a full Java API for message flow development (so you could get the full end-to-end development and deployment lifecycle in a single script), and dynamic configurable services. You can also group your resources together into separately deployed and managed use cases, using the new applications and libraries feature which spans development, deployment and management.


Well I'm drooling. For a better reason than I normally do.

Separately deployable subflows are probably a reason to upgrade by themeselves.
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Vitor wrote:
Well I'm drooling. For a better reason than I normally do.

That's good to know!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the geek in me is looking forward to downloading this already!!

...and also the new features course when it comes out!


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While I applaud the new functionality and new found user friendliness...
I also fear that less and less new people will attend actual courses to learn how to properly handle all this function ...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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good to know..that its capturing better stats and figures which can point the fingers to bad designs.....




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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are WMB v8 and WMQ v7.1 available in IBM Passport advantage now?

PS - I think you should have called it WMQ 7.2 - easier to distinguish from 7.0.1.....
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Michael Dag wrote:
I also fear that less and less new people will attend actual courses to learn how to properly handle all this function ...

I think it was usability guru Donald Norman who said that if something needs an instruction manual then it's too complex.

... Now, in the context of an integration middleware handling billions of business critical transactions per day I don't necessarily agree, but hey, what do I know.
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mqmatt wrote:
Michael Dag wrote:
I also fear that less and less new people will attend actual courses to learn how to properly handle all this function ...

I think it was usability guru Donald Norman who said that if something needs an instruction manual then it's too complex.

... Now, in the context of an integration middleware handling billions of business critical transactions per day I don't necessarily agree, but hey, what do I know.


I think even Donald Norman would say that it's all well and good that the firearm is point-and-click, but if you don't know who you mean to shoot, then it's not much help.
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zpat wrote:
Are WMB v8 and WMQ v7.1 available in IBM Passport advantage now?

PS - I think you should have called it WMQ 7.2 - easier to distinguish from 7.0.1.....


Not yet. We just announced today. We're slating delivery for end of the year, just like we did for V7, V6.1, V6.0 and V5.0.
As for MQ V7.1 vs V7.2, you'll need to take that up with Mark T...
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