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| my_mqmb |
 Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:55 am Post subject: HOW TO KILL THE DEBUGGER FAST ?? |
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i am wondering how to kill the debugger fast and how to launch it fast ??
it takes ages for that !!
MB 7.0 toolkit !
Any discoveries /fixes ?/
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:01 am Post subject: Re: HOW TO KILL THE DEBUGGER FAST ?? |
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| my_mqmb wrote: |
| it takes ages for that !! |
Mine doesn't. Check you have enough memory and there's nothing funky with the install, especially Eclipse.
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| MB 7.0 toolkit ! |
Which exact version?
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| Any discoveries /fixes ?/ |
Fixes certainly. IIRC Toolkit's up to 7.0.0.1 with 2 interim fixes.
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:03 am Post subject: Re: HOW TO KILL THE DEBUGGER FAST ?? |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| Fixes certainly. IIRC Toolkit's up to 7.0.0.1 with 2 interim fixes. |
7.0.0.3 |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Does your system meet minimum specs? Are you using at least toolkit Version: 7.0.0.2 Build id: 7.0.0.2-IFix-20110310_1127 and runtime enabled to the 7.0.0.2 level? Do you have at least 3 GB RAM on board? Have you closed all other programs?
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:16 am Post subject: Re: HOW TO KILL THE DEBUGGER FAST ?? |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| Fixes certainly. IIRC Toolkit's up to 7.0.0.1 with 2 interim fixes. |
7.0.0.3 |
Shows what I know.
But the point stands - there are fixes.
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| my_mqmb |
| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Version: 7.0.0.1
Build id: 7.0.0.1-20100630_0750
THIS IS MY CURRENT STATUS ..
So the new fixes might solve the problem ?
Thanks a lot both ov u for replies .. |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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How much ram do you have on board? Anything less than 3GB and no code change is going to fix your problem.
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| my_mqmb |
| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:34 am Post subject: |
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2 gb ram only  |
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| my_mqmb |
| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| How much ram do you have on board? Anything less than 3GB and no code change is going to fix your problem. |
2 gb only ..
and every time i detach/attach the debugger it starts building the workspace ,
what on earth is happenin ?? |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:47 am Post subject: |
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and every time i detach/attach the debugger it starts building the workspace ,
what on earth is happenin ?? |
It's getting ready to show you what's happening in the flow you're debugging, using the workspace as a window. What else is a graphical debugger going to use if not the workspace?
If you've got BuildAutomatically set it'll discover the workspace is already up to date and won't bother. The trade off is that your workspace will then build automatically every time you do a save.
You pay your money, you take your choice. I personally choose to take a user trace because it's faster, easier and more informative. 
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| my_mqmb |
| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| my_mqmb wrote: |
and every time i detach/attach the debugger it starts building the workspace ,
what on earth is happenin ?? |
It's getting ready to show you what's happening in the flow you're debugging, using the workspace as a window. What else is a graphical debugger going to use if not the workspace?
If you've got BuildAutomatically set it'll discover the workspace is already up to date and won't bother. The trade off is that your workspace will then build automatically every time you do a save.
You pay your money, you take your choice. I personally choose to take a user trace because it's faster, easier and more informative. |
Thanks mr expert .. few guys like u make this forum so beloved !!
aprreciate yr responses |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:16 am Post subject: |
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You'll also improve your speediness using the debugger when you close all other programs. If possible, add more ram.
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| my_mqmb |
| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| You'll also improve your speediness using the debugger when you close all other programs. If possible, add more ram. |
thanks for yr advice too ..  |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Your welcome. As a reference, each developer here uses an HP Z600 8-way desktop. Our hardware configuration is 6 GB ram, but since we use Windows XP, only 3 GB RAM (3,311 MB according to systeminfo utility) is available to the OS. Some day soon, we will upgrade the OS to Windows 8 and be able to use all 6 GBs.
As I run WMB toolkit, using Windows Task Manager, my PF usage typically runs between 2 GB and 4.5 GB. At 4.5 GB, I usually end up rebooting (twice a month/once a week) due to the sluggishness of Windows. The eight CPU cores usually run 25 to 40 percent utilization each when using the debugger.
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