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| Mitra |
 Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:59 am Post subject: How to Back up queues using CSQUTIL |
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Hi friends,
I am new to mainframes. Can anyone please let me know how to do the backup work.
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:10 am Post subject: Re: How to Back up queues using CSQUTIL |
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| Mitra wrote: |
Hi friends,
I am new to mainframes. Can anyone please let me know how to do the backup work.
Thanks in Advance. |
If you are new to mainframes, you will need to learn basic z/OS hands-on skills, such as TSO and ISPF. You will need to understand JCL. And much more.
As to backing up queue content, read the CSQUTIL portion of the WMQ for z/OS System Administration manual.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:28 am Post subject: Re: How to Back up queues using CSQUTIL |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
| If you are new to mainframes, you will need to learn basic z/OS hands-on skills, such as TSO and ISPF. You will need to understand JCL. And much more. |
Are you trying to back up the queue definitions, or the queue contents? If the latter, you might do better with backing up the page sets. Depending on exactly how your queue manager is configured.
Which requires the same level of z/OS knowledge as CSQUTIL.
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:11 am Post subject: Re: How to Back up queues using CSQUTIL |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| Which requires the same level of z/OS knowledge as CSQUTIL. |
z/OS (MVS) is very, very different from Windows/UNIX. Your organization needs to send you to training to learn mainframe skills. An IBM course like ES10A Fundamental System Skills in z/OS is an excellent place to begin your mainframe journies.
As the name implies, this 4.5 day hands-on course will give you the basic skills to log on, navigate ISPF (the character-based shell), use TSO shell commands, use JCL (Job Control Language), the MVS scripting language, submit batch jobs, and review output.
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| Mitra |
| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:11 am Post subject: Re: How to Back up queues using CSQUTIL |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
| Vitor wrote: |
| Which requires the same level of z/OS knowledge as CSQUTIL. |
z/OS (MVS) is very, very different from Windows/UNIX. Your organization needs to send you to training to learn mainframe skills. An IBM course like ES10A Fundamental System Skills in z/OS is an excellent place to begin your mainframe journies.
As the name implies, this 4.5 day hands-on course will give you the basic skills to log on, navigate ISPF (the character-based shell), use TSO shell commands, use JCL (Job Control Language), the MVS scripting language, submit batch jobs, and review output. |
Yes, i felt the difference. I hope i will get trained soon.
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| Mitra |
| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:17 am Post subject: Re: How to Back up queues using CSQUTIL |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| bruce2359 wrote: |
| If you are new to mainframes, you will need to learn basic z/OS hands-on skills, such as TSO and ISPF. You will need to understand JCL. And much more. |
Are you trying to back up the queue definitions, or the queue contents? If the latter, you might do better with backing up the page sets. Depending on exactly how your queue manager is configured.
Which requires the same level of z/OS knowledge as CSQUTIL. |
Actually we are trying to delete some of the queues. Just for future reference, we just want to back it up before deletion.
I have little knowledge on Mainframes. I can login and use the ISPF panel. I can create queues and edit the mq objects. But this is the first time when it comes to backup or using CSQUTIL. I know the steps to go till Eazyedit functions but I am confused after that. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:45 am Post subject: Re: How to Back up queues using CSQUTIL |
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| Mitra wrote: |
| I know the steps to go till Eazyedit functions but I am confused after that. |
If Eazyedit is what I dimly remember it (or something that sounds like it) is or was then after that you need to create a JCL member to run CSQUTIL & provide the relevent commands via the designated DD card.
You can't invoke CSQUTIL via ISPF or any interactive means. The only interactive part is writing the JCL.
If you lack the z/OS skills for that, seek the assistance of your sys progs or a z/OS skilled member of your team.
And don't post back here saying "have you got some sample JCL I can just use for this one-off" - any sample JCL will need to be tailored to your site standards & you're much better off giving the InfoCenter details to someone on your site who can not only get CSQUTIL working but will know details for your JOB card, DSNs, STEPLIBs and all the other local stuff we can't possibly even guess at.
Until that is all taken care of any sample we give you simply will not run. It just won't.
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:59 am Post subject: Re: How to Back up queues using CSQUTIL |
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| Vitor wrote: |
And don't post back here saying "have you got some sample JCL I can just use for this one-off"... |
The WMQ for z/OS System Admin manual includes sample JCL. You can also search google for csqutil+sample to find others.
Just as having Windows or UNIX system skills is required to do system work on those platforms, there is an expectation that you have z/OS skills to admin WMQ for z/OS. Get trained soon.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:03 am Post subject: Re: How to Back up queues using CSQUTIL |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
| The WMQ for z/OS System Admin manual includes sample JCL. |
This is the sample I was alluding to.
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| bruce2359 |
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I knew that.
It's been my experience that 80% of WMQ admins at best only read 20% of the official doc.
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| brianb |
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| You can use MO71 to save your MF QM definitions |
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| zpat |
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And presumably MS03 as well, which would be best for scripting.
On the z/OS front - there is a good series of IBM Redbooks covering skills on these. |
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| mqjeff |
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| zpat wrote: |
| And presumably MS03 as well, |
Yes, using either a client connection or a remote qmgr connection.
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| which would be best for scripting. |
Well, I like to think so, yes. |
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| bruce2359 |
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CSQUTIL has commands to create object definitions - like MS03 does on midrange platforms.
Oddly, this is all documented in the WMQ for z/OS System Admin manual.
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