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| sk531 |
 Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:59 pm Post subject: is there any mqsc program/process available for my req? |
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Hi,
I am wondering that if you guys have any process which takes the message from a Queue (eg: Q1 on QM1 in one machine) and puts to another Queue (eg:Q2 on QM2 on different machine). Please Let me know!!
Below is the flow design
Sending application --> WMB flow connected to a remote QR0 of QM0-->QL1 of QM1 (on machine A) ???? Q2 of QM2(on machine B) --> client conn to MDB
Could you please advice me on this??
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| fatherjack |
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: is there any mqsc program/process available for my req? |
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| sk531 wrote: |
| I am wondering that if you guys have any process which takes the message from a Queue (eg: Q1 on QM1 in one machine) and puts to another Queue (eg:Q2 on QM2 on different machine). |
Errrr Yes. Lots. E.g. MQGET then MQPUT. Or MQInput Node and MQOutput Node.
If you really are struggling with this I suggest you get some basic MQ training.
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| sk531 |
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: is there any mqsc program/process available for my req? |
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| fatherjack wrote: |
Errrr Yes. Lots. E.g. MQGET then MQPUT. Or MQInput Node and MQOutput Node.
If you really are struggling with this I suggest you get some basic MQ training. |
Thanks for the quick response.
If you use MQGET and MQPUT.. you have to do the run them manually, i want a programm which listens on queue whenever a message comes then process to the sender queue automatically.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: is there any mqsc program/process available for my req? |
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| sk531 wrote: |
| i want a programm which listens on queue whenever a message comes then process to the sender queue automatically. |
Well aside from the many support pacs that could do this, and the samples you could easily adapt to do this, you could easily reconfigure WMQ itself to forward any message addressed to one queue to be forwarded to another.
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| fatherjack |
| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:35 am Post subject: Re: is there any mqsc program/process available for my req? |
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| fatherjack wrote: |
| If you use MQGET and MQPUT.. you have to do the run them manually, i want a programm which listens on queue whenever a message comes then process to the sender queue automatically. |
Trigger maybe? Or just a long running process maybe? Or MQInput/MQOutput flow maybe?
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| Mr Butcher |
| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:48 am Post subject: |
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why not make Q1 on QM1 a remotequeue pointing to Q2 on QM2? of course you need to connect QM1 and QM2.
Dont see the need for a program or broker flow here ?!? or what have i missed? 
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| sk531 |
| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:32 am Post subject: Re: is there any mqsc program/process available for my req? |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| Well aside from the many support pacs that could do this, and the samples you could easily adapt to do this, you could easily reconfigure WMQ itself to forward any message addressed to one queue to be forwarded to another. |
Thank you, working on finding the sample provided by IBM
| fatherjack wrote: |
| Trigger maybe? Or just a long running process maybe? Or MQInput/MQOutput flow maybe? |
Thanks, trigger option make sense and working on that
| Mr Butcher wrote: |
why not make Q1 on QM1 a remotequeue pointing to Q2 on QM2? of course you need to connect QM1 and QM2.
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Thanks, If I go for this option, there is no use of having QM1 rather I would connect to QM2 directly .. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:40 am Post subject: Re: is there any mqsc program/process available for my req? |
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| sk531 wrote: |
| Thank you, working on finding the sample provided by IBM |
Try looking on the install media that comes with WMQ. Or on the IBM site. Or the Capitalware site.
| sk531 wrote: |
| Thanks, trigger option make sense and working on that |
You'd still need something to trigger.
| sk531 wrote: |
| Thanks, If I go for this option, there is no use of having QM1 rather I would connect to QM2 directly .. |
There are solid architectual reasons why you might want an intermediate queue manager; typically if you're putting together a hub & spoke, or if you've got network issues.
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| bruce2359 |
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Do you intend for your app to connect to one qmgr to put msgs, the connect to the other qmgr to put messages? Is all of this to be in one Unit of Work?
If so, keep in mind that an mq application-managed 2-phase Unit of Work (commit/backout) is based a single connection handle.
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| santnmq |
| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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what i understood from your query, You already have MQ setup to send messages from QR0 on QM0 to QL1 on QM1. And now you want all those messages to be transferred to QL2 on QM2.
One basic qn.. Can't you directly send messages from QR0 to QL2? Can't you modify the old MQ setup? |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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There is also a part in the intercommunications manual that covers multi-hops.  
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| sk531 |
| Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Hello,
My Problem has been solved , Below is the updated flow
Earlier:
Sending application --> WMB flow connected to a remote QR0 of QM0-->QL1 of QM1 (on machine A) ???? Q2 of QM2(on machine B) --> client conn to MDB
Now:
Sending application --> WMB flow connected to a remote QR0 of QM0-->QL1 of QM1 (on machine A) -->TCP/IP adapter(shell script)-->QR2 of QM1 ---> Q2 of QM2(on machine B) --> client conn to MDB
Thank you all for your help on this. |
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| bruce2359 |
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Moved to WMB forum
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| sk531 wrote: |
Hello,
My Problem has been solved , Below is the updated flow
Earlier:
Sending application --> WMB flow connected to a remote QR0 of QM0-->QL1 of QM1 (on machine A) ???? Q2 of QM2(on machine B) --> client conn to MDB
Now:
Sending application --> WMB flow connected to a remote QR0 of QM0-->QL1 of QM1 (on machine A) -->TCP/IP adapter(shell script)-->QR2 of QM1 ---> Q2 of QM2(on machine B) --> client conn to MDB
Thank you all for your help on this. |
Still way complicated
Think:
WMB flow puts to QR0 on QM0 -> QR1 on QM1-> QL2 on QM2...
Again multihop concept in the intercommunications manual
You could also use a JMS output node if there can be no sdr/rcvr connections between the different qmgrs... 
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| gerdd |
| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Guys (incl. any gals, of course),
this is a newbie asking. A couple of MQ fundamentals - we'll get to MB right after this:
ONE:
Q1 on QM1 -> Q2 on QM2 ... newbies tend to forget that you can only be connected to one QM at a time unless you are an MQ client. So, if you wanted to write a program that uses MQ client to connect to both QMs, fine. I actually know users that have done this (yes!)
But you can't do this with MB, because MB can't be a client - might be able to jippo something with JMS, but that would be a bad hack!
TWO:
With MQ you can get only from your local QM, but you can put to any remote QM. No exceptions! But this one can be done with MB as well: To do Q1 on QM1 -> Q2 on QM2 you need to run on a broker on QM1. Then it is MQInput -> MQOutput specifying Q1 in the MQInput node and Q2 on QM2 in the MQOutput node.
By the way, that is the reason why the MQOutput node lets you specify a queue manager, but the MQInput node doesn't.
No-one needs triggers or TCP/IP or JMS or anything fancy for this. Only thing is QM1 must know how to find QM2. (Hint: it is done with channels) |
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