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| SOAIntegration |
 Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:44 am Post subject: Single Project for Messageflows and Message Sets |
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Hi,
Right now we have all main flows in one Message flow project, similarly subflows and Message sets in MessageSet project. We are planning to combine Message Sets, Main flows, subflows and java components (jars or classess) related to one service in single folder so that we can have bundles based on service and from there we can create bar files.
Though able to put them in single folder (simple project type) while creating bar it is not allowing to add message sets and flows as they are not belong right project type.
Is there any other approach where by i can combine all the components to single folder?
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:48 am Post subject: |
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You can't have Message Sets in the same Project as Message Flows, and neither can be in a "simple" project.
You need Message Sets to be in Message Set Projects and Message Flows to be in Message Flow projects.
Otherwise Eclipse doesn't know anything about the contents of the files or what builders to use to process the projects or how to resolve project dependencies.
You should have one Message Set Project for each Message Set. You should have one Message Flow project for each set of logically related Message Flows. |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:36 am Post subject: |
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Look at your source control hierarchy and organize message flow and message set projects accordingly. 
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Think of your grouping mechanism as the Bar file, not the project. A Bar file can, usually does, contain several projects.
Seems as though you are trying to over-engineer your source code control system.
Most ESB teams have one or more "Build Engineers" whose primary focus is to build and deploy bar files, usually with the help of a Continuous Integration tool like Hudson. What does your Build Engineer say about your proposal?
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| Most ESB teams have one or more "Build Engineers" |
You have missed the word "Should".
Most do not. Most should.
Especially given things like SOXLEY and PCI.
It's fairly clear that SOAIntegration is trying to get to the point where they do have one, and have a structure that is configured to assist using something like Hudsen or ANT or Maven or etc. But also fairly clear that they don't have sufficient understanding to do it correctly.
The structure being looked for should be done at the source control level, not at the workspace or project level. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| Most ESB teams have one or more "Build Engineers" whose primary focus is to build and deploy bar files |
Hah!
| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| usually with the help of a Continuous Integration tool like Hudson. |
Hah squared.
You've clearly been fortunate in your experiences.
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Last year, the US Govt gave away free golf carts to anyone who wanted one. As long as the golf cart was electric, it qualified for a $4,650 green energy tax credit. The cost of electric golf carts magically became $4,650. 7,211 electric golf carts were bought and paid for with US Treasury money.
So, I am thinking, we can get Congress to approve a Build Engineer tax credit so all Banks, Stock Brokers, and Electric Companies can afford to hire Build Engineers. Ya think?
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