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my_mqmb
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:49 am    Post subject: Need Advice from this great community Reply with quote

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Dears,

I am extremely sorry to post a non technical query here .
Its just because i know this place has got some amazingly talented techies.

My question is that i want to do masters in computer science from the US,
But my education degree in bachelors was in electronics and communication engineering .

But my experience is 5 years in EAI technologies like WMB/MQ series.

Whats the best branch i can opt for in my Masters education , so that this experience dosent go in vain and i dont have to start all over again..


Any advices will be much appreciated .

Thanks in advance ...
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lancelotlinc
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: Need Advice from this great community Reply with quote

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my_mqmb wrote:
Dears, I am extremely sorry to post a non technical query here . Its just because i know this place has got some amazingly talented techies. My question is that i want to do masters in computer science from the US, But my education degree in bachelors was in electronics and communication engineering . But my experience is 5 years in EAI technologies like WMB/MQ series. Whats the best branch i can opt for in my Masters education , so that this experience dosent go in vain and i dont have to start all over again.. Any advices will be much appreciated . Thanks in advance ...


If your goal is to develop software, a Masters degree won't help you much. Companies hire people with technical skill. You're better off (if you want to be a developer) to take technical training rather than go for your Masters.

Developers in US and India make four times what managers do.

In 2011, an IT team lead in India with 3 to 6 years experience made 3.6-4 Lacs (1 Lac = 100,000 rupee equivalent). Whereas a developer made 12-15 Lacs.
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What's the goal of acquiring the masters degree? To become a manager? To become an architect? To become XYZ? this changes what program you should look for.

It can make a difference in personal salary, although how much depends on employer and etc.

I doubt anyone here has knowledge of specific masters programs that may apply directly to connectivity and integration or messaging.
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my_mqmb
PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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[quote="mqjeff"]What's the goal of acquiring the masters degree? To become a manager? To become an architect? To become XYZ? this changes what program you should look for.


Yes , m eyeing to be an architect , but are you familiar with any program which is in streamline to this EAI technologies ?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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[quote="my_mqmb"]
mqjeff wrote:
What's the goal of acquiring the masters degree? To become a manager? To become an architect? To become XYZ? this changes what program you should look for.


Yes , m eyeing to be an architect , but are you familiar with any program which is in streamline to this EAI technologies ?


I'll admit that I consider a master's degree to be excellent training in being an architect, in that the end result is that you've spent two years and a lot of someone else's money and produced nothing more than a pile of papers that nobody will ever read again.

I don't know of any specific master's degree programs that are targeted at EAI technology.

I doubt anyone who posts here does either.

It also makes a big difference in terms of *where you are*. A program in China may not be the best choice for you if you live in Brazil.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Need Advice from this great community Reply with quote

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my_mqmb wrote:
My question is that i want to do masters in computer science from the US,
But my education degree in bachelors was in electronics and communication engineering .


How do you see a Master's degree in Computer Science helping with your stated goal of becoming an architect? How would you pitch this MSc to a potential future employer when applying for such a role? How do you see your 5 years of experience being applied to a MSc?

Having decided the answers to all of those questions, seek a course program that meets these needs.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It might be better to look for industry certifications for IT architecture rather than pursue higher academic qualifications. Most senior IT positions only require a bachelor degree and relevant experience. I'm doubt that you can go from B.Eng to M.Sc with only 1 or 2 years of study. I think you would do better getting work experience in your chosen field of IT rather than adding more letters after your name.
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We certainly don't want to discourage your pursuit of a Master's degree. As suggested by my worthy associates, a Master's is seldom a requirement for a developer position.

That said, if I'm hiring a developer, and two candidates have similar technical knowledge and experience, along with other qualifications, I might choose the one with a Master's degree.

If one of the candidates had a Master's, but lacked the knowledge and experience of the other candidate, I would not consider the advanced degree a substitute for knowledge and experience.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've met Ph.D's who couldn't tie their own shoelaces.

In some ways, the willingness to stay at Uni for long periods can be inversely proportional to the ability to actually do something useful.

Just remember that Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, I believe that if your goal is to grow in a career path inside a big company it's better to get engaged on notable projects and get certified, the Open Group Certification program looks like a good one for IT Architect role. To achieve it, you need to prove experience on the role and I believe that a Master does not count for this certification.

At least in Brazil, if you have good experience on big projects it count much more than a Master program because the major ones has an almost 100% Academic approach, so it's difficult to bring to the market. Anyway, I have a colleague that made a Master in Machine Learning and built a million company, however I think his goal was to become a researcher, but figured out that his thesis could be applied to the market.

The good thing of a Master is that you can really understand how the things works and can become very specialized on it, if you work for companies that all the things are rushed, it's difficult to get enough time to have fun with deep learning.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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digoshc wrote:
...The good thing of a Master is that you can really understand how the things works and can become very specialized on it, if you work for companies that all the things are rushed, it's difficult to get enough time to have fun with deep learning.

Yeah, most companies want you to do useful work for them, not for you to spend all of their time and money on self learning. However, some companies will sponsor part time study for managers and team leaders to do an MBA (Master of Business Administration).

If I was financially independent, I would consider quitting work to go back to Uni and study for an MSc or PhD in some ready deep and interesting IT subject. The research and writing would be more rewarding that the gong at the end.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When I filter through applications looking for an o/s sysadmin, I am not looking for someone who understands the theory of operating systems (computer science major). Rather, I want someone who can run the o/s.

Additionally, I want someone who understands (my) business, which includes accounting. I want someone who has good problem-determination skills, and can work well with customers, coworkers, vendors, management. I don't often find these skills from CompSci graduates.
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