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jdveencamp
PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:33 am    Post subject: Single MQSeries accessing CICS on multiple LPAR's? Reply with quote

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MQ Experts,

We are new to MQSeries, and have our queue manager currently running on a mainframe LPAR that has some CICS's also running on that LPAR. What we are wondering, is we have some other CICS's running on a different mainframe LPAR. Do we also have to have a queue manager running on that other LPAR? Or can one queue manager communicate to CICS regions running on multiple LPAR's?

The reason for my question is licensing costs. We currently have our queue manager on a low utilization LPAR, and the WLM licensing costs for MQSeries are lower because of that. But the other LPAR with these other CICS regions is much higher CPU so would raise our MQ licensing costs dramatically.

Thanks for any info!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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AFAIK CICS can only connect to a queue manager on the same LPAR
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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CICS requires that a Queue Manager be local to the instance of CICS running.

However, there is reference to a CICS multiregion operation or intersystem communication (ISC) environments.

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv6/v6r0/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.mq.csqsat.doc/csq825g.htm
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CICS requires that a Queue Manager be local to the instance of CICS running.

The IBM-supplied MQ-CICS adapter thingie that runs in the CICS region does an MQCONNect to the named queue manager. MQCONNects are to local (same LPAR) queue managers.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A possible solution for CICS instances not in the same LPAR as MQ is to do the CICS MRO thing.

Take a look at http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/cicsts/v2r3/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.cics.ts23.doc/dfha1/dfha12t.htm

Select a CICS in the same LPAR as MQ that will serve as a gateway for all other CICSs that are not in the same LPAR with MQ.

Configure the cluster (not an MQ term here) of CICSs to enable messages arriving at the MQ in the same LPAR as gateway CICS to start apps (function ship) to the external CICSs (vis XCF, for example).

Get your CICS sysprog involved in this.
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Appreciate the responses guys. Thanks!
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