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| eric |
 Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:05 am Post subject: multi instace QManager in solaris ? |
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http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=171&context=SSFKSJ&context=SSEP7X&q1=cryptography&uid=swg21398427&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en
The above link states the multi-instance queue manager function delivered in WebSphere MQ v7.0.1 will not be supported on solaris
we are planning to purchase MQ latest release for implementing inour solaris 10 machines. Our main goal is to achieve high avalaibility . With the above defect we are unable to move forward with our proposal forpurchasing MQ latest version for our solaris boxes.
does any one know whether any fix pack rleased resolving MQ 7 multi instance qmanager compatability with solaris?
Can any of you please also confirm the latest relase of the MQ along with the fix packs?? |
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| mvic |
| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:55 am Post subject: Re: multi instace QManager in solaris ? |
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| eric wrote: |
| we are planning to purchase MQ latest release for implementing inour solaris 10 machines. Our main goal is to achieve high avalaibility . With the above defect we are unable to move forward with our proposal forpurchasing MQ latest version for our solaris boxes. |
Do ensure your account team are aware of your requirements. The multi-instance queue manager feature is only one form of "high availability" offered by WebSphere MQ. Others are: queue manager clusters, Veritas/HACMP(etc.)-based solutions, client channel tables, and maybe others I forgot. It is possible one of these other forms of HA is more in line with your requirements, and so the restriction does not affect you.
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| does any one know whether any fix pack rleased resolving MQ 7 multi instance qmanager compatability with solaris? |
No, not yet. The web page says 1Q2010. Again raise this through your account team, as they may be able to give further details.
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| Can any of you please also confirm the latest relase of the MQ along with the fix packs?? |
7.0.1.0
See this page to answer this and similar questions http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=171&uid=swg21254675 |
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| Michael Dag |
| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:56 am Post subject: Re: multi instace QManager in solaris ? |
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| eric wrote: |
| Our main goal is to achieve high avalaibility. |
the fact that the multi-instance feature is not supported on Solaris does not mean you can't do MQ HA on Solaris!
What HA package are you (planning on) using? SUN Cluster, Veritas?
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| exerk |
| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:27 am Post subject: Re: multi instace QManager in solaris ? |
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| mvic wrote: |
| ...The multi-instance queue manager feature is only one form of "high availability" offered by WebSphere MQ. Others are: queue manager clusters... |
Not wishing to appear pedantic, but strictly speaking queue manager clusters are not an HA solution.
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| mvic |
| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:31 am Post subject: Re: multi instace QManager in solaris ? |
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| exerk wrote: |
| Not wishing to appear pedantic, but strictly speaking queue manager clusters are not an HA solution. |
It depends how one defines "HA". Some would define it sufficiently generally that qmgr clusters would qualify. |
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| eric |
| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Ok..Thanks for all your replies...
You are all very experienced people on MQ MB . If you are supposed to set up a environment for your Client. What MB MQ verisons do you suggest to client if the clients main intention is high availabilty and the solaris 10 as its environment OS. MB 7.0 has been released very recently.. is it a good approach to setup our new environment with MB 7 with out having confirmation on its stability.. and any of you please share your experieces if you found any compatability issues with the latest releases of the MQ and MB or let know if any post describing the same.. thanks in advance |
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| Vitor |
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| eric wrote: |
| What MB MQ verisons do you suggest to client if the clients main intention is high availabilty and the solaris 10 as its environment OS. |
Any version 6+ under the control of a dedicated piece of HA software (Veritas for example).
If you want to play it really safe then stick with WMBv6 (which works fine with WMQv7) though I've not heard of any issues with WMBv7 per se.
Check with your client regarding their policy on the early adoption of software, which is probably a bigger driver on the WMBv6/7 question.
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| PeterPotkay |
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Some shops never run any x.0 version of software.
I have not heard of any major, or minor for that matter, problems with WMB 7.
All software, new or old, has bugs.
WMB 6.0 has announced a sunset date, so if you wont go with WMB 7, go with WMB 6.1. WMB 6.1 has not yet announced an end date. Yet.
If I were setting up a new infrastructure, I would go with WMB 7. You are going to be doing heavy testing anyway. I would not upgrade from a stable 6.1.0.* to 7.0.0.0, unless the business demanded it for specific features. We are standing up some new Brokers in early 2010. They will be 7.0.0.1 or better. My existing 6.1 Brokers will get upgraded later in 2010 after the 2nd or 3rd Fix Pack is released. Just my strategy and philosphy - others equally valid.
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| Vitor |
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| PeterPotkay wrote: |
| WMB 6.0 has announced a sunset date, so if you wont go with WMB 7, go with WMB 6.1. |
When I said WMBv6 I meant 6.1 
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| It depends how one defines "HA". |
One of my client sysadmins (a novice) declared they were HA because they spent a few hundred bucks on a battery-backup...
Clarity of terms /= pedantic.
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| SAFraser |
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At a recent IBM MQ webinar, which included a discussion of multi-instance queue managers in v7.x, I asked the question "when will it be supported for Solaris 10?"
IIRC, the answer was "first quarter 2010". Someone else may recall this also. The best source for this answer is probably your IBM sales rep.
We are bringing up a new data center with MQ v7.0.1 running on Solaris 10. The key difference between traditional HA and multi-instance queue managers (for us) is that the IP address does not migrate when the multi-instance queue manager fails over, so we've decided to use an HA solution based on Veritas cluster as this is most effective with our old, inflexible client applications. |
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| As we are trying to build a new environment we are planning to go with the latest verions of the MQ 7.x and MB 7.X . I need to know apart from the multiinstance of Qmanagers are their any other limitations that arised for these versions in the Solaris 10. we will install these softwares in solaris zones. It would be a very great help if you please share your experiences about the difficulties or limitations or pre-requisite which we need to think before we finalizing these versions for solaris 10 OS. |
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| Michael Dag |
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MB V7 requires MQ V7.0.1, so if you decide to go for MB V7 that narrows down your options.
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| SAFraser |
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We are bringing up MQ 7.0.1 and WMB 6.1 on Solaris 10 zones. The products are not particularly zone-aware. Unless your unix admins are willing to give you whole root zones, you will need to install binaries in the global zone and then either reinstall into sparse zones or inherit the binary directories into the sparse zones.
With sparse zones for these products, IMHO, you lose a great deal of the advantage of Solaris 10 zones.
In either case, the products are quite workable on Solaris 10. Your installation methodology will determine how much advantage you gain with zones. |
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