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| kailashbawane |
 Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:36 pm Post subject: How to release the messages from Transmission Queue? |
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Acolyte
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Hello Everyone,
Some messages are stuck in transmission Q, As my sender channel is in stopped status: and the reason for that is as below:
AMQ9545: Disconnect interval expired.
EXPLANATION:
Channel 'MGWTQM.GTFDQM' closed because no messages arrived on the transmission
queue within the disconnect interval period.
How can i release the messages from transmissin Queue?
Can i simply start the channel?
Need experts advice
Thanks ,
Kal
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| Sam Uppu |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Yatiri
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You should look into the Intercommunication manual regarding what happens when a channel is in stopped state and need to analyze what caused it to stop.
The reason what you provided is not related to the channel stopped state. That is a normal informational msg. |
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| jeevan |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: How to release the messages from Transmission Queue? |
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| kailashbawane wrote: |
Hello Everyone,
Some messages are stuck in transmission Q, As my sender channel is in stopped status: and the reason for that is as below:
AMQ9545: Disconnect interval expired.
EXPLANATION:
Channel 'MGWTQM.GTFDQM' closed because no messages arrived on the transmission
queue within the disconnect interval period.
How can i release the messages from transmissin Queue?
Can i simply start the channel?
Need experts advice
Thanks ,
Kal |
yes, you can. Also look at the channel triggering.
If channel are not being used for some time(disconnect interval period) they go into inactive state. After that any message arrived on xmitq will not be transmitted to the remote queue/ will be piled up in the xmitq.
To avoid this situation, set the trigger on XMIT queue. |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Reread Jeevan's post:
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| If channel are not being used for some time(disconnect interval period) they go into inactive state. |
A channel goes into stopped state because of channel errors or operator command.
Was the channel status stopped or inactive?
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| kailashbawane |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Acolyte
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Hi Bruce,
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A channel goes into stopped state because of channel errors or operator command.
Was the channel status stopped or inactive?
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MY Answer: The Channel is in STOPPED state.
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Look at error logs again for some other issue with the channel.
If none found, find out who issued the STOP CHANNEL mqsc command (or the equivalent control command) and smack him/her.
If a channel is STOPPED, it required manual intervention - like START CHANNEL command.
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| exerk |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
| ...If a channel is STOPPED, it required manual intervention - like START CHANNEL command. |
Unless of course there is no Dead-letter queue defined and the messages sent are persistent...but then that should show in the logs 
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| SAFraser |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Ummm.... I think the absence of a DLQ causes a channel to go to retrying, not stopped. (Prepared to be corrected, of course.)
I believe the circumstances under which a channel will go to STOPPED without human intervention are quite rare.
As others have said, the original poster needs to issue an affirmative START CHANNEL command. (Just wanted to restate for him/her, to be certain of clarity.) |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| SAFraser wrote: |
| Ummm.... I think the absence of a DLQ causes a channel to go to retrying, not stopped. (Prepared to be corrected, of course.) |
Erm...no, the channel stops as shown here.
But this doesn't invalidate the previous advice of a) work out why the channel stopped (rather than retrying) and b) restart it.
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:29 am Post subject: |
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| the circumstances under which a channel will go to STOPPED without human intervention are quite rare. |
Short and long retry failures cause it; but you are correct that this is rare - usually caused by cable-seeking backhoes.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
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| the circumstances under which a channel will go to STOPPED without human intervention are quite rare. |
Short and long retry failures cause it; but you are correct that this is rare - usually caused by cable-seeking backhoes. |
Or serious network outages. Or ridiculous channel settings.
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| SAFraser |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| If there is a DLQ and it is full, it returns an RC2053 and the channel goes to retry... is that what I am remembering, then? Different than DLQ being unavailable or nonexistent? (Prepared to be corrected a second time, at which point I will retreat and stop posting to this thread.) |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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| (Prepared to be corrected a second time, at which point I will retreat and stop posting to this thread.) |
Don't give up.  We're your friends. Just imagine what folks who didn't like you would post?
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| Sam Uppu |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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If the queue on remote site is non-persistent and DLQ(on remote qmgr) is not defined -> you will get 2053
If the queue on remote site is persistent, full and there is no DLQ defined, the channel will go into RETRY state and msgs will stuck in the XMITQ. The link provided by Vitor says this. |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Not to be picky, but queues are neither persistenr nor non-persistent. Persistence is a message attribute.
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