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| pshan81 |
 Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:40 am Post subject: Websphere Application Server and MQ |
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We are planning to upgrade our Websphere application server on AIX to 6.1 and introduce a new application,run it on WAS and post messages to MQ.WAS and MQ server are on different boxes.
Do I need to install MQ client on the same box as WAS server? The below link shows that the minimum supported MQ version for WAS 6.1 is MQ 5.3 CSD12. Does it apply it to MQ client and MQ server?
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=180&uid=swg27007624
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WebSphere Application Server v5.1 with embedded MQ allows you to access remote queue managers via WebSphere Application Server JMS without having a WMQ client installed. |
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| exerk |
| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Follow some of the links within the link you posted and you'll find your answer 
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| shashivarungupta |
| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:31 am Post subject: |
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| pshan81 wrote: |
| ..Do I need to install MQ client on the same box as WAS server?.. |
Why do you need MQ Client on the same box in which WAS server is ?
When it comes to the putting the messages to the MQ Queues .. Application would do so and settings for that would be done on WAS that'll point to MQ Server Objects.(for connection/put/get/close etc.)
Some of the MQ Library files are required to be there in the WAS Repository. As you said WAS and MQ Server are on diff. boxes and Application connects to MQ Server through WAS settings...so I don't think you need MQ Client. ( Please clarify 'why' ..If you need it though ).
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| pshan81 |
| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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If we have a stand alone application one box and MQ server on another box, we use MQ client (not copying jar files) to communicate to MQ server.
When we are doing this for stand alone application we should also do it for application running on WAS right (unless WAS with embedded MQ is installed)? How will we get the jar file com.ibm.mq.jar to communicate to MQ if there is no MQ client? |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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WAS 6.1 comes with a WebSphere MQ Client embedded in it. You don't need the actual WebSphere MQ client installed on the WAS box.
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| pshan81 |
| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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 Thanks Saper.
I can see the com.ibm.mq.jar & com.ibm.mqjms.jar on install_root\lib\WMQ\java\lib appserver box. While IBM recommends installing a whole MQ client package for better diagonistics & support, why just having the jar is supported for WAS?
1) By having a whole MQ client, we can see FDC and errors. This will not be possible with WAS?!
2) MQ client full package is also recommended for easy upgrade reasons.This is not applicable for WAS?! |
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| exerk |
| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| pshan81 wrote: |
| ...While IBM recommends installing a whole MQ client package for better diagonistics & support, why just having the jar is supported for WAS?... |
Because the error reporting within that version of WAS is very good, and as I stated before, look at some of the links within your link and they will reveal a whole wealth of information that answers most (if not all) of your questions. fjb_saper has already thrown you a fish, now go fishing yourself.
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| shashivarungupta |
| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| fjb_saper wrote: |
| WAS 6.1 comes with a WebSphere MQ Client embedded in it. You don't need the actual WebSphere MQ client installed on the WAS box. |
This statement has all the answers to your all questions related to the mq jars and WAS jars and/or versions.
| exerk wrote: |
| ...fjb_saper has already thrown you a fish, now go fishing yourself. |
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