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| abs_cal |
 Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:31 am Post subject: WTX Training |
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I am looking for WTX training (intermediate or advanced) preferably by IBM or other reputed organization. I wanted training should be organized in NY, NJ area .
Please let me know if you are attending or plz shared your advice if you have attended.
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:52 am Post subject: |
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Have you looked on the IBM Website?
It took me less than 30 seconds to get a list of WTX courses.
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| aspre1b |
| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| Fair comment, but has anyone used any other suppliers (apart from IBM) for WTX training in the UK? |
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| aspre1b |
| Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:40 am Post subject: |
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| Well it certainly is quite tricky to arrange WTX training as IBM don't seem interested in providing it in the UK apart from virtual classroom. They also haven't got back to me about English courses in Europe. |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:51 am Post subject: |
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WTX is legacy. Think twice before investing in the tool (training, licenses, or coding time). Anything you can do with WTX, you can do twice as fast with standard broker.
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| inMo |
| Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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| WTX is legacy. Think twice before investing in the tool (training, licenses, or coding time). Anything you can do with WTX, you can do twice as fast with standard broker. |
Have you mentioned this fact to the companies out there buying it to work with broker? |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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The typical scenario: company buys WTX, company tries to get internal resources to work with WMB and WTX, company gives up on internal resources because they don't want to pay for training, company hires consultants, consultants come in and code WTX, company says WTX performance is too slow, company opens PMR with IBM, IBM Hursley recodes WTX transformations in ESQL, company rejects ESQL transformations because "we already bought WTX so we're going to use WTX."
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| company rejects ESQL transformations because "we already bought WTX so we're going to use WTX." |
At which point you'd presumably review the decision not to pay for WTX training because you've decided to stick with WTX for good or ill which is quite possibly where the OP came in...
...and does support your position that you need to think twice about WTX training. Once when you reject it, once when you finally go for it!
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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The DFDL parser in Broker v8 eliminates all of the limitations that the MRM parser had in comparison to type trees. There's nothing you can do with WTX that you can't do with Broker v8.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
| The DFDL parser in Broker v8 eliminates all of the limitations that the MRM parser had in comparison to type trees. There's nothing you can do with WTX that you can't do with Broker v8. |
There's very little you can do with WTX that you can't do with WMBv7.
I was just pointing out it was plausible the OP's management had already thought twice.
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| inMo |
| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| So are we saying that the new DFDL parser and new WMB mapping in v8 is likely to become the favored direction? |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| inMo wrote: |
| So are we saying that the new DFDL parser and new WMB mapping in v8 is likely to become the favored direction? |
Well given DFDL is close kin to what WMB has used under the covers for message sets for ages, it's not that much of a jump.
Also anything less frustrating than the current system would be welcome.
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| inMo wrote: |
| So are we saying that the new DFDL parser and new WMB mapping in v8 is likely to become the favored direction? |
It's certainly my favorite!
Vitor's point remains. If you've invested in WTX, you may choose to continue with that investment.
I believe that both lancelotlinc and I are in agreement that, if you've invested in WTX, you should throw it away at your earliest opportunity.
But that's opinion, not necessarily strategy. And you won't likely find an official statement that WTX is 'legacy', at this point. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
| Vitor's point remains. If you've invested in WTX, you may choose to continue with that investment. |
Which is, again, possibly the position of the OP.
| mqjeff wrote: |
| I believe that both lancelotlinc and I are in agreement that, if you've invested in WTX, you should throw it away at your earliest opportunity. |
This is a position I too would endorse.
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| Ric-Tic |
| Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| mqjeff wrote: |
| Vitor's point remains. If you've invested in WTX, you may choose to continue with that investment. |
Which is, again, possibly the position of the OP.
| mqjeff wrote: |
| I believe that both lancelotlinc and I are in agreement that, if you've invested in WTX, you should throw it away at your earliest opportunity. |
This is a position I too would endorse. |
Until such time as DFDL 'Industry Packs' become available, say for EDI, FIX, SWIFT, ACH etc, I would expect WTX to remain as the primary option for those complex messages protocols |
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