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| Seb |
 Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:38 am Post subject: WMBT --> XML Mapping |
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Hi,
I am using the XML Mapping editor from the WMBT to create my XSL Stylesheets for the the XSL Transform Nodes.
Are there any best practices / documentations on this tool?
Actually, I am looking for an explanation on how to create xsl:choose elements with this tool.
Thanks in advance!
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| Seb |
| Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Hi Jeff,
because it makes it easier for the customer to create its own mappings, even if they don't have that much WMB background.
But back to my original question ... Has nobody ever used this tool, esp. people from IBM? |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| Seb wrote: |
| because it makes it easier for the customer to create its own mappings, even if they don't have that much WMB background. |
Will you tell your customer they're using the least efficient of the WMB mapping methods?
| Seb wrote: |
| But back to my original question ... Has nobody ever used this tool, esp. people from IBM? |
It's possible that no-one has. The use of XSLT within WMB is principally intended for the use of existing XSLT by people migrating onto WMB from an XSLT based method. WMB can use the XSLT, allowing immediate use, while new material is generated into ESQL within WMB.
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| Seb |
| Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Well I asked my customer how many messages they are going to send over that mapping flow. The answer was 200,000 p.a. (max. 5kb p.msg.)
I guess the XSL Transform node is more than sufficient for this kind of XML messages. So why use ESQL, which nobody can read after I have left the project?
Furthermore, I told my customer that XSLT is a product-independent standard esp. for XML message transformation. So if they are going to send more messages they might think about buying Datapower or use WESB or whatever. As far as I know, these products do not support ESQL and the specialists for these products have mostly no idea of what ESQL is. So why use ESQL for mappings, as there is already a standard? |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Seb wrote: |
| I guess the XSL Transform node is more than sufficient for this kind of XML messages. |
If the volumes are really that low then yes. But with volumes that low I wonder at the decision to purchase WMB, a fairly expensive item. Perhaps the customer intends this situation to change?
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| So why use ESQL, which nobody can read after I have left the project? |
Aside from every person who's worked on WMB in the last 10 years. ESQL also has more features & flexibility (aside from the performance) than XSLT
| Seb wrote: |
| Furthermore, I told my customer that XSLT is a product-independent standard esp. for XML message transformation. |
True
| Seb wrote: |
| So if they are going to send more messages they might think about buying Datapower or use WESB or whatever. |
Why would they buy more product when they're hardly using this one? Datapower is intended for high speed wire transformation in high volume situtation (1000s of messages a minute). You're a long way from that.
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| As far as I know, these products do not support ESQL and the specialists for these products have mostly no idea of what ESQL is. So why use ESQL for mappings, as there is already a standard? |
Not what I understood, but my experince of Datapower is limited to the sales pitch and some presentations, so I'll defer to your greater knowledge.
Though if this is the case, you have to wonder why WMBv6 makes so little use of XSLT and continues with ESQL as the principle transformation language.
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| ovasquez |
| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| Seb wrote: |
I guess the XSL Transform node is more than sufficient for this kind of XML messages. So why use ESQL, which nobody can read after I have left the project?
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Depend...This is IBM Performance Report from WMB 6.1...example(In z/OS):
MQInput->XSLT->MQOuput
Msg Size ---Rate (Msgs/sec) %---- CPU Busy ----CPU ms/msg
4K---289.12--- 69.28--- 4.79
16K---101.84--- 66.15--- 12.99
64K---27.09--- 60.06--- 44.34
256K---6.68--- 61.37--- 183.82
MQInput->ESQL->MQOuput
Msg Size ---Rate (Msgs/sec) %---- CPU Busy ----CPU ms/msg
4K---302.60--- 64.10--- 4.24
16K---82.21--- 57.01--- 13.87
64K---19.71--- 54.88--- 55.68
256K---4.10--- 53.45--- 260.73
| Seb wrote: |
Furthermore, I told my customer that XSLT is a product-independent standard esp. for XML message transformation. So if they are going to send more messages they might think about buying Datapower or use WESB or whatever. As far as I know, these products do not support ESQL and the specialists for these products have mostly no idea of what ESQL is. So why use ESQL for mappings, as there is already a standard?
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Sure? for example
XML-->MQInput-->(Transformation)--->MQOutput
You can use DataPower before MQInput....But in Flow is not posibled
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| ovasquez |
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| Seb wrote: |
Hi Jeff,
because it makes it easier for the customer to create its own mappings, even if they don't have that much WMB background.
But back to my original question ... Has nobody ever used this tool, esp. people from IBM? |
But use "Node Mapping" is very easy too, and not requiered background in ESQL. and is posibled export Node Mapping->ESQL, view suppport pack ia9y_1.0.0-WMB Toolkit Map to ESQL PlugIn
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