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| juanmg |
 Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:22 pm Post subject: MQ 5.2/5.3 and Windows 2003 |
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Hi everyone
Does anyone know if i can install WMQ 5.2 on Windows 2003? Or if i can install WMQ 5.3 on Win 2003?
Thanks in advance |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: MQ 5.2/5.3 and Windows 2003 |
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| juanmg wrote: |
| Does anyone know if i can install WMQ 5.2 on Windows 2003? Or if i can install WMQ 5.3 on Win 2003? |
You shouldn't install either of them. They're both out of support and there's no good reason to put them on a new box.
If you ask Mr Google, he'll tell you the requirements for the levels. If you're silly enough to persist in this desire.
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| juanmg |
| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: MQ 5.2/5.3 and Windows 2003 |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| juanmg wrote: |
| Does anyone know if i can install WMQ 5.2 on Windows 2003? Or if i can install WMQ 5.3 on Win 2003? |
You shouldn't install either of them. They're both out of support and there's no good reason to put them on a new box.
If you ask Mr Google, he'll tell you the requirements for the levels. If you're silly enough to persist in this desire. |
I know i shouldn't install these products, i know they are out of support, but this is not my question. I wanna know if they can be installed and used without problems in Win2003. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: MQ 5.2/5.3 and Windows 2003 |
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| juanmg wrote: |
| I know i shouldn't install these products |
Then why are you doing it?
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| I wanna know if they can be installed and used without problems in Win2003. |
If they could, IBM would never bother to offer support for the product.
If you can spare the time from your clearly busy schedule to look up the requirements as I suggested, you'll find the requirements for these versions.
Unless you feel just asking the question until someone gives you an answer you like is a better use of your time.
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| juanmg |
| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: MQ 5.2/5.3 and Windows 2003 |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| juanmg wrote: |
| I know i shouldn't install these products |
Then why are you doing it?
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Because the customer wants to do it this way.
Of course i asked Mr Google before posting here, and keep searching there while someone could give me an answer here.
The answer is not supported for 5.2, only for 5.3, that was all i need, thanks for your time anyway. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: MQ 5.2/5.3 and Windows 2003 |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| juanmg wrote: |
| I know i shouldn't install these products |
Then why are you doing it?
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Because the customer wants to do it this way. |
Then you should point out to the customer that they are being very, very silly and have a very odd attitude to business risk. As an WMQ professional you need to underline to the customer exactly what "out of support" means in practical terms.
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| juanmg |
| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: MQ 5.2/5.3 and Windows 2003 |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| juanmg wrote: |
| Vitor wrote: |
| juanmg wrote: |
| I know i shouldn't install these products |
Then why are you doing it?
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Because the customer wants to do it this way. |
Then you should point out to the customer that they are being very, very silly and have a very odd attitude to business risk. As an WMQ professional you need to underline to the customer exactly what "out of support" means in practical terms. |
I agree, of course i have explained the situation and hope this is just temporal and can migrate to version 7 or 6 at least. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: MQ 5.2/5.3 and Windows 2003 |
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| juanmg wrote: |
| this is just temporal and can migrate to version 7 or 6 at least. |
And the reason your customer is not starting the migration by testing v6 or v7 on this new box is......?
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| juanmg |
| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: MQ 5.2/5.3 and Windows 2003 |
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| juanmg wrote: |
| this is just temporal and can migrate to version 7 or 6 at least. |
And the reason your customer is not starting the migration by testing v6 or v7 on this new box is......? |
$$$$ pretty much... |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:28 pm Post subject: Re: MQ 5.2/5.3 and Windows 2003 |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| juanmg wrote: |
| this is just temporal and can migrate to version 7 or 6 at least. |
And the reason your customer is not starting the migration by testing v6 or v7 on this new box is......? |
$$$$ pretty much... |
So your customer is put off by the cost of the free upgrade? 
I hope you're being paid in advance......
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| juanmg |
| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: MQ 5.2/5.3 and Windows 2003 |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| juanmg wrote: |
| Vitor wrote: |
| juanmg wrote: |
| this is just temporal and can migrate to version 7 or 6 at least. |
And the reason your customer is not starting the migration by testing v6 or v7 on this new box is......? |
$$$$ pretty much... |
So your customer is put off by the cost of the free upgrade?
I hope you're being paid in advance...... |
its kind of complicated, i wouldn't like to share details, but its about money pretty much |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: MQ 5.2/5.3 and Windows 2003 |
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| its kind of complicated |
Clearly. Your customers are prepared to run on out of support software rather than spend no money on supported software. That's so complicated I can't get my head round it.
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| gbaddeley |
| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: MQ 5.2/5.3 and Windows 2003 |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| juanmg wrote: |
| its kind of complicated |
Clearly. Your customers are prepared to run on out of support software rather than spend no money on supported software. That's so complicated I can't get my head round it. |
The money issue is more likely the cost, effort and inconvenience of upgrading rather than ongoing MQ license costs. They are probably thinking: Its been running OK for years, so why change? Its a risk / cost trade-off. They may think they they can battle through one high severity problem with an extended outage, every 5 years or so, on unsupported software. So what is the compelling reason to upgrade, even if old versions are no longer officially supported by the vendor (ie. they won't fix any new problems) ?
BTW, I fully agree with always running supported software.
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| gunter |
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5.3 works with 2003 Server, but keep in mind, this is maybe not true for every configuration and may change after installing updates.
I'm sure IBM will not test 5.3 with windows 2003 and will not provide any fixpacks to solve problems with it.
So, if you get it running, don't touch the running system.
I never tried 5.2 on windows 2003 and I believe it was out of support when windows 2003 came out. If you do not have a problem running a not supported version, try it. If it runs today, there is no reason for not running tomorrow.
But after a problem, replacing hardware..., it is possible, you don't get it running again.
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