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jwendorf
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:20 am    Post subject: End of Support V6 Reply with quote

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Our management is looking at a long range plan and I was wondering if anyone might know when WepSphere MQ V6 will be going off support?

Thanks,
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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First this:
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/websphere/support/lifecycle/

Then read this:
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycle/lc-policy.html



Based on the rules, I would say Septemeber 2010 would be the earliest they would pull support, and you would know at least 12 months in advance.
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WMBDEV1
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This question was asked in the forum just a couple of days ago (and many times before.... Did yu do a search before posting? If not why not?
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markt
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You also sent me a private email but I'll answer in public....

No date has yet been announced for the EoS for V6.

Based on the rules, the earliest date for the EoS looks like April 2011. (Some V6 platforms were released after others, and it doesn't make sense to withdraw them piecemeal.) There will be a minimum 12 months notice of the official date, but I'd expect there to be a longer notice period, with the announcement maybe this year. There would also be the opportunity to purchase extended service contracts after that.

The EoS date has not been finalised, but I would not be surprised to see it set to that earliest opportunity.
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jwendorf
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Thank you for the reply,

Jim
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Monk
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Let me tell you something about lifecycle of MQ..

i have one client who is using MQ v5.3 till today in productions with no issues and is quite happy with MQ v5.3
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I have another client who is on MQ v7.0.0.1 and i m not sure if he has any issues...


So i wouldn't worry much about it.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If your MQ fails one day, for whatever reason, causing $$$ damage to your company, and your management asks you why you run an unsupported, out-of-date version, would you still say "because i did not worry about it" ?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If your MQ fails one day, for whatever reason, causing $$$ damage to your company, and your management asks you why you run an unsupported, out-of-date version, would you still say "because i did not worry about it" ?


That is a risk the management was willing to take inspite of me making recommendations to them..prolly because i don't work for IBM.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Monk wrote:
i have one client who is using MQ v5.3 till today in productions with no issues and is quite happy with MQ v5.3

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So i wouldn't worry much about it.


And when his system goes down, he rings IBM for help getting his business back and they tell him it's out of support, you'll have one less client.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And when his system goes down, he rings IBM for help getting his business back and they tell him it's out of support, you'll have one less client.


Oh no..it is IBM who will be having one less client..

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Vitor
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Monk wrote:
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And when his system goes down, he rings IBM for help getting his business back and they tell him it's out of support, you'll have one less client.


Oh no..it is IBM who will be having one less client..


Guess again. He'll be on your doorstep, asking why you never warned him about this, pointed out the dangers of not upgrading and asking what he pays you for.

He could, I suppose, decide IBM are worthless and take his business elsewhere. If this client of yours has the money and the time to re-work his infrastructure to not use WMQ and the other IBM products he probably has.

Most clients in my experience throw their rattle out of the parm in a different direction, especially when the nice person on the IBM support desk mentions that, not only would IBM GS have warned him ahead of time about the support issue but would be delighted to help with the now urgent upgrade process, and a sales person will be calling shortly.

IBM one less client! Best laugh I've had in ages.....
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Guess again. He'll be on your doorstep, asking why you never warned him about this, pointed out the dangers of not upgrading and asking what he pays you for.


But i had already done this...hehe

it was the management who did not care...even after IBM recommends it.

Can you blame the consultant , if the management did not bother to upgrade their software?.

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IBM one less client! Best laugh I've had in ages.....


Good!! u needed that
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Monk wrote:
Can you blame the consultant , if the management did not bother to upgrade their software?.


In every single instance. Even if the decision not to upgrade is documented and signed off. Goes with the job.
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In every single instance. Even if the decision not to upgrade is documented and signed off. Goes with the job.


Well then, I guess the next time I will have to put a gun to client's head to make him upgrade his software..

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Monk wrote:
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In every single instance. Even if the decision not to upgrade is documented and signed off. Goes with the job.


Well then, I guess the next i will have to put a gun to manager's head to make him upgrade his software..


I use a trout, but the same principle.

I've also found accidently wondering out loud how much the business would lose if the system was down for a day or so when key business stakeholders are walking past effective. This helps put the money "wasted on a pointless upgrade" in perspective. They also tend to have better firepower.
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